Ranger - News To Shock

[old] PaulS · Post by **[old] PaulS** » February 6th, 2006, 2:42 pm

Ranger seems to be poking his head into the forum each day, but is remaining uncharacteristically silent. Very strange and mysterious.

[old] hjs · Post by **[old] hjs** » February 6th, 2006, 3:42 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Feb 6 2006, 07:42 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Ranger seems to be poking his head into the forum each day, but is remaining uncharacteristically silent. Very strange and mysterious. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Maybe even he start's understanding that the time for talking is over. It's time to walk. And a 200 meter row as a heavy is not much off a walk. <br /><br />But at least he is alive and maybe he has doubled his training K's and hasn't any time left to type. 2 full marathons light and frothy, 2 hours off skipping, 2 hours off sit ups, 4 hours off stepping. And all that to break a soft WR and just being a hobby.

[old] george nz · Post by **[old] george nz** » February 6th, 2006, 3:45 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(hjs @ Feb 7 2006, 08:42 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>But at least he is alive and maybe he has doubled his training K's and hasn't any time left to type. 2 full marathons light and frothy, 2 hours off skipping, 2 hours off sit ups, 4 hours off stepping. And all that to break a soft WR and just being a hobby. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Heaven forbid if he decides to take it seriously

[old] DougB · Post by **[old] DougB** » February 6th, 2006, 4:02 pm

I found the Toronto race results online, and he had another DNF. Maybe he'll row with me in Baltimore next weekend - he's scheduled to be in the race right before mine. I'd like to see a world record to get me pumped up!<br /><br /><a href='http://www.cdn-indoor-rowing.com/results2006.html' target='_blank'>Canadian Indoor results</a>

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » February 6th, 2006, 4:09 pm

DNF or DNS ?

[old] FrancoisA · Post by **[old] FrancoisA** » February 6th, 2006, 4:23 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(DougB @ Feb 6 2006, 08:02 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I found the Toronto race results online, and he had another DNF. Maybe he'll row with me in Baltimore next weekend - he's scheduled to be in the race right before mine. I'd like to see a world record to get me pumped up!<br /><br /><a href='http://www.cdn-indoor-rowing.com/results2006.html' target='_blank'>Canadian Indoor results</a> <br /> </td></tr></table><br />The link above didn't work for me.<br />I tried <a href='http://www.cdnindoorrowing.org/results2006.html' target='_blank'>this</a> instead. Rich is on page 6 of the 81 pages PDF document. It would have been a walk in the park for him to win gold.<br /><br />Francois

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » February 6th, 2006, 5:13 pm

This just posted on the UK forum.<br /><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE("Rocket Roy")</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I have nothing but admiration for Ranger. He has bulked up with extra muscle over the last 2 years due to the changed stroke, and as a consequence even after 12 hours of exercise over saturday and sunday going without food and water, he weighed in at 168lbs. <br /> I think that it was a great effort to get to lwt, and he is in a Catch22 situation, row badly and not build the muscle and row as a lwt. Row properly and build the muscle and then not be able to make weight.<br /><br />It must be really depressing to have done all that and still not be able to make weight. <b>Surely a case for middle weights say 75 to 90 kilos.</b>

<br /><br />Anyway Ranger may row as a hwt in the next comp this sunday, and it would be a treat for him to race as a hwt fullu hydrated and full of food, I know it was for me after my stint as a lwt. </td></tr></table>

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » February 6th, 2006, 5:14 pm

If that is true then it looks like the Ranger saga is over.

[old] Jim Barry · Post by **[old] Jim Barry** » February 6th, 2006, 5:45 pm

<br />I checked his Crash-B entry this morning on Regattacentral.com and he was entered as a LW with a 6:32 seed time (perhaps his Euro time from 2003) but this afternoon he is in the Open Class (55-59) with the same seed time. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

[old] george nz · Post by **[old] george nz** » February 6th, 2006, 6:46 pm

Guess Dennis's time was not so soft after all, and all Rich's training times should have been taken in the context of a HW not a LW, this despite his protestations that he was pretty much a natural LW when it came to racing.<br /><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Jan 10 2006, 12:10 AM<br /><br /><b>No, 165 lbs. is a _very_ good weight for me</b>, and I have no need or desire for more muscle. As I mentioned, I am _very_ strong, especially in the back, shoulders, core, and upper body more generally.<br /><br /><b>5'11" is a nice height for a lightweight.</b> No need for extra inches. If I were taller, I couldn't make weight and still be as strong. <b>I have the perfect balance of height and weight for a lightweight rower.</b><br /> </td></tr></table>

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » February 6th, 2006, 7:44 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(george nz @ Feb 6 2006, 02:46 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Guess Dennis's time was not so soft after all, and all Rich's training times should have been taken in the context of a HW not a LW, this despite his protestations that he was pretty much a natural LW when it came to racing. </td></tr></table><br /><br />Yes I agree, George.<br /><br />Dennis doesn't have the ability that Rich does, but has made more of what he has.<br /><br />He's gotten many first places in the rankings, far more than Rich, and is now 2nd fastest for age 55+.<br /><br />Lyle Parker has the fastest 55+ time, a 6:37.7 at age 57 or 58.

[old] PaulS · Post by **[old] PaulS** » February 6th, 2006, 8:05 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Feb 6 2006, 03:44 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(george nz @ Feb 6 2006, 02:46 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Guess Dennis's time was not so soft after all, and all Rich's training times should have been taken in the context of a HW not a LW, this despite his protestations that he was pretty much a natural LW when it came to racing. </td></tr></table><br /><br />Yes I agree, George.<br /><br />Dennis doesn't have the ability that Rich does, but has made more of what he has.<br /><br />He's gotten many first places in the rankings, far more than Rich, and is now 2nd fastest for age 55+.<br /><br />Lyle Parker has the fastest 55+ time, a 6:37.7 at age 57 or 58. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Seems Dennis actually owns the Official <a href='http://www.concept2.com/05/training/com ... ecords.asp' target='_blank'>World Record</a> as of today, regardless of claims to faster times in that category. (I'm taking nothing from Mr. Parker, but the list is the list. He seems to have been the unfortunate victim of dropping from the records at an inopportune time prior to the age class change. In fact, that seems to have happened durin the epic battling between Dennis and Jean Paul, so it's all "still in the family" so to speak.) <br /><br />

[old] george nz · Post by **[old] george nz** » February 6th, 2006, 8:15 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Feb 7 2006, 12:44 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(george nz @ Feb 6 2006, 02:46 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Guess Dennis's time was not so soft after all, and all Rich's training times should have been taken in the context of a HW not a LW, this despite his protestations that he was pretty much a natural LW when it came to racing. </td></tr></table><br /><br />Yes I agree, George.<br /><br /><b>Dennis doesn't have the ability that Rich does, but has made more of what he has.</b><br /><br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I dont know about the comparisons in regard to ability, only that one has taken his opportunity and one has talked about opportunity. I know I have the utmost respect for what Dennis achieved especially in doing so in a major championship. Rangers achievements were before my involvement in the sport but I think I would have felt the same way.<br /><br />I am guessing this could apply to a lot of champions in a lot of sports, there are often more gifted people out there but for whatever reason they dont have what it takes to make full use of it.<br /><br />Sometimes it is arrogance, sometimes it is ignorance, sometimes they just believe their own reviews - its a shame as I think we are all inspired when we see the best fulfill their potential.<br /><br />George<br />

[old] cbrock · Post by **[old] cbrock** » February 6th, 2006, 8:52 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Feb 7 2006, 08:05 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><br />Seems Dennis actually owns the Official <a href='http://www.concept2.com/05/training/com ... ecords.asp' target='_blank'>World Record</a> as of today, regardless of claims to faster times in that category. (I'm taking nothing from Mr. Parker, but the list is the list. He seems to have been the unfortunate victim of dropping from the records at an inopportune time prior to the age class change. In fact, that seems to have happened durin the epic battling between Dennis and Jean Paul, so it's all "still in the family" so to speak.) <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Paul,<br />I don't know the history of World Rankings but I assume it relates to the five year age groups after 50.<br /><br />What I don't understand is that if Lyle Parker did achieve this time aged 57 or 58 in a RACE then why isn't he still credited with the record irrespective if he raced in a 50-59 category.<br /><br />Chris

[old] Spectator · Post by **[old] Spectator** » February 6th, 2006, 9:09 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(FrancoisA @ Feb 6 2006, 03:23 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(DougB @ Feb 6 2006, 08:02 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I found the Toronto race results online, and he had another DNF. Maybe he'll row with me in Baltimore next weekend - he's scheduled to be in the race right before mine. I'd like to see a world record to get me pumped up!<br /><br /><a href='http://www.cdn-indoor-rowing.com/results2006.html' target='_blank'>Canadian Indoor results</a> <br /> </td></tr></table><br />The link above didn't work for me.<br />I tried <a href='http://www.cdnindoorrowing.org/results2006.html' target='_blank'>this</a> instead. Rich is on page 6 of the 81 pages PDF document. It would have been a walk in the park for him to win gold.<br /><br />Francois <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />All the no-shows are listed as DNF - erg #4 remained empty and there was no little man in a hat in the warm up area prior to the race.

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