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[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Jan 26 2006, 07:00 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Jan 26 2006, 07:00 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Or at least, we are not supposed to say so, even if we think otherwise, so that we don't insult Dennis and hurt his feelings. </td></tr></table><br /><br />

[[old] John Rupp]

<a href='http://www.shtanga.kcn.ru/images/chemp83/blagoev.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.shtanga.kcn.ru/images/chemp8 ... jpg</a><br /><br />

[[old] John Rupp]

Are you sure it's the same guy.<br /><br /><a href='http://www.bgwf.org/top/b_13.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.bgwf.org/top/b_13.jpg</a><br /><br />He'd need to have overgone a major transformation.

[[old] mpukita]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Jan 26 2006, 05:12 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Jan 26 2006, 05:12 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Are you sure it's the same guy.<br /><br /><a href='http://www.bgwf.org/top/b_13.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.bgwf.org/top/b_13.jpg</a><br /><br />He'd need to have overgone a major transformation. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Why John? ... he looks pretty darn fit to me ... nothing but lean meat on those bones ... not to mention significant weight pressed overhead!

[[old] mpukita]

<!--QuoteBegin-Ray79+Jan 26 2006, 12:32 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Ray79 @ Jan 26 2006, 12:32 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Jim Barry+Jan 26 2006, 09:45 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Jim Barry @ Jan 26 2006, 09:45 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><a href='http://www.regattacentral.com/index.jsp?tab=regattas' target='_blank'>Crash-B entries</a><br /><br />It would appear that the Blagoev is entered at least and seeding himself with a 6:22. That's some <b>Bold</b> mustard. A little google search has one of his lifting WR's (in the 198lb class) as a 411lb snatch(1982).  I'm not much into weightlifting WR's (so correct me if I'm wrong), but even today the all time record for any weight class is 468lbs (according to the IWF site).  <br /><br /><br />Rich, what time are you seeding with? <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Who is the lightweight junior man who had seeded himself with a 5:13??<br /><br />R. Keffer - Oakton Cougar Crew Booster Club <br /><br />Optimistic to say the least <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Must have been a typo ... no?<br />

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-mpukita+Jan 26 2006, 01:53 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Jan 26 2006, 01:53 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Why John? ... he looks pretty darn fit to me ... nothing but lean meat on those bones ... not to mention significant weight pressed overhead! </td></tr></table><br />Because he weighed in at 198 pounds, and would have needed to lose 33 pounds to be lightweight.

[[old] mpukita]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Jan 26 2006, 06:20 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Jan 26 2006, 06:20 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-mpukita+Jan 26 2006, 01:53 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Jan 26 2006, 01:53 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Why John? ... he looks pretty darn fit to me ... nothing but lean meat on those bones ... not to mention significant weight pressed overhead! </td></tr></table><br />Because he weighed in at 198 pounds, and would have needed to lose 33 pounds to be lightweight. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Ahhh ... got it ... I went from 183 to 163, what's another 13 pounds?<br /><br /> <br /><br />

[[old] Jim Barry]

Not a great source of info, but a member on a weightlifting forum put Blagoev at 5' 6". Most of these guys marvel at his skills in the snatch.

[[old] whp4]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Jan 26 2006, 02:20 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Jan 26 2006, 02:20 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-mpukita+Jan 26 2006, 01:53 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Jan 26 2006, 01:53 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Why John? ... he looks pretty darn fit to me ... nothing but lean meat on those bones ... not to mention significant weight pressed overhead! </td></tr></table><br />Because he weighed in at 198 pounds, and would have needed to lose 33 pounds to be lightweight. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Well, he probably won't be carrying those weights around when he weighs in <br />

[[old] rowan]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Jan 26 2006, 11:12 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Jan 26 2006, 11:12 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Are you sure it's the same guy.<br /><br /><a href='http://www.bgwf.org/top/b_13.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.bgwf.org/top/b_13.jpg</a><br /><br />He'd need to have overgone a major transformation. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />One more. <br /><a href='http://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/56 ... LAGOEV.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/56 ... jpg</a><br />

[[old] John Rupp]

The last picture was in 1979.<br /><br />If that's the same Blagoev, he's had 26+ years to lose the 33 pounds.

[[old] ranger]

Blagoev was caught for using steroids, no? That could explain the weight loss very nicely. Some of the "deflated" baseball players walking around the United States these days are interesting to see. Looks to me as though the average weight loss when you go off steroids is just about the lean body mass that Blagoev needed to lose to be 165 lbs., 35 pounds or so. Perhaps, when he lifted back in the 80s, he was just a drugged out 165-pounder all the time.<br /><br />BTW, it is exciting to think that the 55--59 lwt WR might be lowered to 6:22. Amazing! There are quite a few implications. First, if rowers this age slow down about 1-2 seconds a year, that means that the 50-55 lwt WR should be something well below 6:22. Even if we give one second to this slowdown, that gives a 6:17. If this should happen, it would mean that the ultimate standard in the 50s lwt category has been upgraded almost 15 seconds over the last three years. Some fine rowing! I am delighted I had a part to play in it. Of course, it also means that the 40s lwt WR should probably be 6:10 or so, not Caviston's pokey 6:18 (just kidding, Mike! ). Perhaps Eskild will show us soon that this is true. <br /><br />Anyway, it will certainly be the case that folks such as Graham Watt will have to cash in their chances of being on top of the 50s lwts. So it goes. <br /><br />If I continue to improve, I think the thing for me to do is to just row as a heavyweight. The competition is thinning in the heavyweights, and anyway, if I get down below 6:22, I will break Andy Ripley's 55-59 hwt WR. Rowing as a heavyweight is a _heck_ of lot easier to do, too. When you row as a lightweight, you do two races at once, a race against weight and a race against the clock. That makes it twice as hard. It will be a relief to just be able to bulk up and stuff my face the night before rowing! Since rowing isn't weight-bearing, it won't matter. I will also need to row as a heavyweight in my 1x, so what the heck. I now compete nicely with the heavyweights that are my age, even though, 5 years ago, this wasn't the case at all. I was off the pace by almost 20 seconds.<br /><br />On the other hand, this year at least, I am going to get down to weight for this first race in Cincinnati and then remain as a lightweight between races as I go through my sharpening period. Doing this, all of the pb attempts that I make along the way (or immediately after WIRC for a month or so), and I should try all of them at least once, can be ranked as lightweight rows. I also want to do Paul Flack's Boston Marathon marathon as a lightweight to see whether I could beat Slocum's hwt 50s record rowing as a lightweight. It is much easier to maintain my weight when I am on sabbatical, not over at school teaching, and can regulate what I eat and how much I need to do to burn it off at all times. I won't have this opportunity for another seven years.<br /><br />I don't know about the rest of you, but I hope Blagoev knocks the crap out of Watt's record. Should be a great row and quite an embarrassment in some ways to the younger categories. If he rows 6:22, I suspect he will also beat Caviston and all of the 40s lwts, not to mention the 50-54 lwts. I suppose he will beat most of the 30s lwts, too. <br /><br />Go 55s lwts!<br /><br />ranger

[[old] hjs]

weightlifters , centainly in the 70/80/90 all (maybe with a few exceptions) used steroids, pro footballers use steriods, cyclist used a lot off epo in the 90/00. And still do. Epo would also be great for improving rowing.<br />Is there any testing in the big erg events?<br />And ranger were you ever tested?<br />

[[old] Ray79]

<!--QuoteBegin-mpukita+Jan 26 2006, 04:56 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Jan 26 2006, 04:56 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Ray79+Jan 26 2006, 12:32 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Ray79 @ Jan 26 2006, 12:32 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />Who is the lightweight junior man who had seeded himself with a 5:13??<br /><br />R. Keffer - Oakton Cougar Crew Booster Club <br /><br />Optimistic to say the least   <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Must have been a typo ... no? <br /> </td></tr></table><br />I would certainly hope so Mark. The machine would probably take off at that pace. 1:18's all the way <br />

[[old] Ericr]

<!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Jan 27 2006, 03:45 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Jan 27 2006, 03:45 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />BTW, it is exciting to think that the 55--59 lwt WR might be lowered to 6:22. Amazing! There are quite a few implications. First, if rowers this age slow down about 1-2 seconds a year, that means that the 50-55 lwt WR should be something well below 6:22. Even if we give one second to this slowdown, that gives a 6:17. If this should happen, it would mean that the ultimate standard in the 50s lwt category has been upgraded almost 15 seconds over the last three years. Some fine rowing! I am delighted I had a part to play in it. Of course, it also means that the 40s lwt WR should probably be 6:10 or so, not Caviston's pokey 6:18 (just kidding, Mike!    ). Perhaps Eskild will show us soon that this is true. <br /><br /><br />ranger <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />You believe the 55-59 Lwt record could be 6:16, using your logic the 50-55 Lwt record should be 6:11. Since no 55-59 LWT has gone sub 6:40 we just have to wait and see. <br />