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[[old] ranger]

<!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->his lost (and insignificant) cause </td></tr></table><br /><br />If fairness in sport is an insignificant cause, Bush is a genius.<br /><br /> <br /><br />ranger

[[old] monkey]

Your back then <br /><br />Well he got himself elected...twice...or did he?

[[old] mpukita]

<!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Dec 3 2005, 06:31 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 3 2005, 06:31 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->his lost (and insignificant) cause </td></tr></table><br /><br />If fairness in sport is an insignificant cause, Bush is a genius.<br /><br /> <br /><br />ranger <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Ranger and all readers ...<br /><br />Ahhhh ... so my NY Times comment was 100% on the money, ehh? The truth comes out ... this is all about the "cause", ehhh Ranger, and really not about the results.<br /><br />I'll admit, I'm a slow guy just introduced to this sport, but working hard to get faster. What I want to see is you produce results. That would be a beautiful thing. I love to see people -- anywhere in the world -- who are good at their "craft" -- perform to the highest levels of performance and quality.<br /><br />If, after all the "talking", you choose to not race (which I believe you've just begun to intimate, oh so slightly, as you've posted the past few weeks), C2 ought to allow every forum member to vote to have you banned from this forum. And that would be right ... because, this ain't a democracy, THEY PAY FOR IT.<br /><br />The fact that you have hammers -- however many -- is, today, immaterial. Congratulations on your past performance. OK, now that that's over, let's talk about today.<br /><br />Talk is very cheap these days. It's easy to have people worldwide see your words. Actions? A bit more pricey. Actions require more commitment ... more sacrifice ... more risk ... more investment.<br /><br />Be courageous and show us what you've got ... or not. But, if you choose to not show us, please just be quiet. That's all we ask.<br /><br />Friends of the forum, did I get this right???<br /><br />Please respond ... a straw poll of sorts ...<br /><br />Regards -- Mark

[[old] monkey]

Don't really feel qualified to express an opinion on this forum Mark, but....<br /><br />I've no objection to 'reasonable' posting, I find some of Rich's post on the UK forum interesting and some re his training downright awe-inspiring.<br /><br />But its time to drop the 'C2 unfair' posts, maybe it was unfair, maybe the selection procedure (or lack of it) needs to be public and transparent but we've heard it all now, both on this and the UK forum.<br />Everybodies opinions on the matter are now deep rooted and unchangable, time now to drop the matter on the forum but continue if he wishes through the proper channels of which this is not one of them.<br /><br />I'm sure Ranger isn't going to use the criticism on here not to perform at the forthcoming venues he's mentioned, I don't think that would wash with anyone. <br />

[[old] george nz]

<!--QuoteBegin-monkey+Dec 4 2005, 12:09 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(monkey @ Dec 4 2005, 12:09 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm sure Ranger isn't going to use the criticism on here not to perform at the forthcoming venues he's mentioned, I don't think that would wash with anyone. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I am sure your not taking bets on that - are you - after all yesterday he had given it all away I thought<br /><br /><!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I think I'll just stick to my boat from now on. This "venue" isn't worth the trouble.<br /><br />ranger </td></tr></table> - oopps maybe that was just banter, or humour, or maybe maybe maybe something else<br /><br />George

[[old] monkey]

Just making sure that particular door is firmly closed before the horse bolts George.

[[old] ranger]

I am continuing to pile up the metres in long Level 4 restricted-rate work. I am hopeful that this will persuade some of those recalcitrant ‘fast twitch’ fibres to work more aerobically so that when they are called-upon in a 2K race they will give me just a little more. I am also hopeful that the time I have spent on technique will mean I can extract a little more out of every stroke for the same energy output and than these things taken together will give me a fighting chance of keeping the slow erosion of time at bay for a year or so. Who knows with luck and a good wind maybe I can even improve!<br /><br /> Wishing all good health and good rowing <br /><br /> I remain, <br /><br /> Your forum buddy (and rowing lunatic) <br /><br />ranger<br /><br />

[[old] tnrower36]

HOLY CRAP !!!<br /><br />I've just spent 30 minutes or so sifting thru all the "smack" concerning the USIRT selection...<br /><br />advice: Show up at the Indoor race of your choice, make the standard, go to Boston and kick ass... If you do - nice work !! If you don't - hopefully you had a good effort and just got beat by someone who was just better than you that day - no shame there...<br /><br />as far as C2 paying for trips - they can do whatever the h-e-l-l they want - they don't like you or your politics - you don't go...<br /><br />as far as team selection - it's political - it's usually that way both on the water and off it too<br /><br />Why not just go with producing results on race day... If you do that - everyone can just kiss your butt... If you don't show up, or have some lame - azz excuse - folks will have every right to thrash you...<br /><br />just my 2 cents... Mr. E...

[[old] ranger]

I am continuing to pile up the metres in long Level 4 restricted-rate work. I am hopeful that this will persuade some of those recalcitrant ‘fast twitch’ fibres to work more aerobically so that when they are called-upon in a 2K race they will give me just a little more. I am also hopeful that the time I have spent on technique will mean I can extract a little more out of every stroke for the same energy output and than these things taken together will give me a fighting chance of keeping the slow erosion of time at bay for a year or so. Who knows with luck and a good wind maybe I can even improve!<br /><br />Wishing all good health and good rowing <br /><br />I remain, <br /><br />Your forum buddy (and rowing lunatic) <br /><br />ranger

[[old] ranger]

<!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ranger made his bed, and now he has to sleep in it, simple as that. </td></tr></table><br /><br />Or this: C2 has made its bed, and now has to sleep in it, simple as that.<br /><br />By condoning, if not defending, C2's behavior, so have you, Paul.<br /><br />Nighty, night.<br /><br />My sleeping--and rowing--are just fine.<br /><br />ranger

[[old] ranger]

<!--QuoteBegin-tnrower36+Dec 4 2005, 07:02 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(tnrower36 @ Dec 4 2005, 07:02 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->HOLY CRAP !!!<br /><br />I've just spent 30 minutes or so sifting thru all the "smack" concerning the USIRT selection...<br /><br />advice:  Show up at the Indoor race of your choice, make the standard, go to Boston and kick ass...  If you do - nice work !!  If you don't - hopefully you had a good effort and just got beat by someone who was just better than you that day - no shame there...<br /><br />as far as C2 paying for trips - they can do whatever the h-e-l-l they want - they don't like you or your politics - you don't go...<br /><br />as far as team selection - it's political - it's usually that way both on the water and off it too<br /><br />Why not just go with producing results on race day...  If you do that - everyone can just kiss your butt...  If you don't show up, or have some lame - azz excuse - folks will have every right to thrash you...<br /><br />just my 2 cents...  Mr. E... <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Thanks, TN. <br /><br />I am doing just what I did from the beginning--rowing my best, and when I plateau, trying to get better. C2 can't change that. It didn't start with rowing; it's how I do everything.<br /><br />Races? Wilil C2 start to make qualification for Boston political, too? And the results of the races? And who they will let on this forum? <br /><br />Time will tell, I guess.<br /><br />They have two pretty clear paths they can tread. So far, they are right on the beaten trail in the business world, which, in any other ethical realm, amounts to wandering _way_ off in the bush.<br /><br />ranger<br />

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Dec 5 2005, 12:06 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 5 2005, 12:06 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ranger made his bed, and now he has to sleep in it, simple as that. </td></tr></table><br /><br />Or this: C2 has made its bed, and now has to sleep in it, simple as that.<br /><br />By condoning, if not defending, C2's behavior, so have you, Paul.<br /><br />Nighty, night.<br /><br />My sleeping--and rowing--are just fine.<br /><br />ranger <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />You only extend my point, and apparently we are all sleeping well. Though you seem to be the one waking up whining from time to time.<br /><br />I'd like to see you perform up to your potential, and never said differently, perhaps I need to reevaluate the areas in which I'd like to see that however, because it never included "World Class Whining".

[[old] John Rupp]

Now we see a disgruntled "coach" belittling the athlete because the (SPI) training didn't work.<br /><br />Very sad... and no surprise it has turned out this way.

[[old] tnrower36]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Dec 5 2005, 10:58 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Dec 5 2005, 10:58 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Now we see a disgruntled "coach" belittling the athlete because the (SPI) training didn't work.<br /><br />Very sad... and no surprise it has turned out this way.  <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />well - whatever the reason - bottom line is one has to show up and pull a time in the presence of others for it to be legit...and blaming the coach is lame - the athlete performs, or does not perform - bottom line.<br /><br /><br />

[[old] mpukita]

<!--QuoteBegin-tnrower36+Dec 5 2005, 12:27 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(tnrower36 @ Dec 5 2005, 12:27 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Dec 5 2005, 10:58 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Dec 5 2005, 10:58 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Now we see a disgruntled "coach" belittling the athlete because the (SPI) training didn't work.<br /><br />Very sad... and no surprise it has turned out this way.   <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />well - whatever the reason - bottom line is one has to show up and pull a time in the presence of others for it to be legit...and blaming the coach is lame - the athlete performs, or does not perform - bottom line. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Not in "John's World" ...