Body Friendly Setup

[old] Slowkiwi · Post by **[old] Slowkiwi** » October 29th, 2004, 9:04 pm

Hi all, I've recently moved out of the city and onto the family farm, thus I need to buy my own C2 rather than use the gym's. My Question, do slides reduce the forces involved in rowing? Both my knees have picked up a fair bit of wear and tear (should have stopped playing rugby earlier than I did!) and I want to create a setup that is as easy on my body as possible. I am 120kg ish and the stress/ forces involved in changing my momentum at the catch and finish feel significant. No big deal at 33 but I would like to keep erging for the next 40+ years if I can. Cheers Duncan

[old] Afterburner · Post by **[old] Afterburner** » October 29th, 2004, 9:20 pm

If you ask me, absolutely. I always feel much more comfortable at the turnarounds on slides. I find with the exception of those days when I'm just a stupid idiot and can't row for some reason (very rare nowadays) that I don't even notice the ends of the stroke really on the slides. On a stationary even on the best days I'll usually notice it if I get over 24SPM. Hope this helps. Heather Johnson F20 HWT 5'7" 2k 7:32.2 20min 5057

[old] GeorgeD · Post by **[old] GeorgeD** » October 30th, 2004, 2:18 am

Hi Duncan, no idea on slides but I have knees that have seen better days, I dont have any issues on the erg except after a few days of 'long' rows and even then nothing bad. I think technique would have a lot to do with this. regds George ps Where have you moved to?

[old] Slowkiwi · Post by **[old] Slowkiwi** » October 30th, 2004, 4:31 am

Hi George, The farm is in the Turakina Valley 10k or so inland, about halfway between Wanganui and Marton. I used to be able to head down to Les Mills at lunchtime from where I worked in Wellington but I'm going to need some sort of home setup here. Duncan

[old] GeorgeD · Post by **[old] GeorgeD** » October 30th, 2004, 4:51 am

Nice to have another Kiwi on board

[old] Slowkiwi · Post by **[old] Slowkiwi** » November 2nd, 2004, 3:17 am

[old] PaulS · Post by **[old] PaulS** » November 2nd, 2004, 7:13 pm

Many folks have reported using Slides as being less stressful on their backs, and a recent post here was regarding a study that dealt with the same subject. <a href='http://bjsm.bmjjournals.com/cgi/reprint/36/2/108' target='_blank'>http://bjsm.bmjjournals.com/cgi/reprint ... /a> - Paul Smith

[old] maf · Post by **[old] maf** » November 2nd, 2004, 10:08 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (PaulS @ Nov 3 2004, 08:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Many folks have reported using Slides as being less stressful on their backs, and a recent post here was regarding a study that dealt with the same subject. <a href='http://bjsm.bmjjournals.com/cgi/reprint/36/2/108' target='_blank'>http://bjsm.bmjjournals.com/cgi/reprint ... /a> - Paul Smith </td></tr></table> Interesting paper that... hope they do the followup research. So Paul, would your general opinion be in favor of slides? I'm 49, and have recently taken up erging to combat the decline in my general fitness that has resulted from a sedentary occupation and busy family life (hardly any exercise) I used to row in my schooldays and made the 1st eight then. I'm enjoying the challenge, and feel better for it, but I'd hate to be contributing to a disk prolapse or something equally devastating along the way. I'm not noticing stress on my back, which I take as a good sign. Most of my workouts are in the 2:15-2:30 range at 20-25SPM. I've been building up to 30minutes on the erg a day since it arrived about a month ago. Regards, Michael

[old] PaulS · Post by **[old] PaulS** » November 2nd, 2004, 11:16 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (maf @ Nov 3 2004, 02:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> So Paul, would your general opinion be in favor of slides?  </td></tr></table> Yes, since you have some rowing experience I think that you would like the slides very much. Actually a very good measure of technique is how closely your effort level matches between being on slides and off. What I would attribute the lower stress on the back to when on slides is that even if you rush up the slide on the recovery there is almost no momentum that will throw you onto the foot stretchers before you are prepared to drive. When on the ground, with the same rushed recovery there must be a build of stress on the lower back just to reverse the direction of travel, and this has to happen before you can make a drive. It's likely you are remembering how to prepare for the drive, based on your rates and paces, and as you build to faster paces will continue to focus on good techique. Erg on, Paul Smith

[old] Canoeist · Post by **[old] Canoeist** » November 3rd, 2004, 9:45 am

I find the slides are easier on the back. I suspect the slides might be just a little easier on the knees too because you are less likely to overcompress. Slides or no slides, the erg is a lot better than running. I can't run because 95 Kg pounding on my right ankle is too much. Cheers, Paul Flack

[old] maf · Post by **[old] maf** » November 3rd, 2004, 11:21 pm

Ok, Ive ordered them. I think I'm running out of things to buy for the C2 now:) Maybe down the track I'll look at the software side of things... Thanks for the responses, Michael

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