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[old] seat5 · Post by **[old] seat5** » January 22nd, 2006, 9:17 am

Great job, Ben--and we don't mind hearing about a guy's PB now and then! Drop in anytime!

[old] CAROLE MAC · Post by **[old] CAROLE MAC** » January 22nd, 2006, 9:39 am

Carla.... fantastic 5k..... now get a 2k done me thinks you'd be winning medals at the Crash B's cos you should be sub 7.15 with that 5k time ...

[old] seat5 · Post by **[old] seat5** » January 22nd, 2006, 10:01 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(CAROLE MAC @ Jan 22 2006, 01:39 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Carla.... fantastic 5k..... now get a 2k done me thinks you'd be winning medals at the Crash B's cos you should be sub 7.15 with that 5k time ... <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Should be according to statistics, I guess. When you race a 2K, as opposed to training, what do you rate? Do you know the MPS? And how many strokes does it take you to get the pace where it belongs? I can't do a good start from a stopped flywheel and it takes me quite a few strokes to get the pace down. <br /><br />I watched some live races today and luckily Paul Flack took a few minutes to see if my stroke was OK. Mostly I was concerned whether I'm really bending at the hips or whether I'm bending at the waist. He said I was OK on that score. I am getting almost tempted to try an all out 2K. Almost. Not quite. Not today. Oh dear. <br /><br />

[old] mpukita · Post by **[old] mpukita** » January 23rd, 2006, 12:26 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(seat5 @ Jan 22 2006, 10:01 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(CAROLE MAC @ Jan 22 2006, 01:39 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Carla.... fantastic 5k..... now get a 2k done me thinks you'd be winning medals at the Crash B's cos you should be sub 7.15 with that 5k time ... <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Should be according to statistics, I guess. When you race a 2K, as opposed to training, what do you rate? Do you know the MPS? And how many strokes does it take you to get the pace where it belongs? I can't do a good start from a stopped flywheel and it takes me quite a few strokes to get the pace down. <br /><br />I watched some live races today and luckily Paul Flack took a few minutes to see if my stroke was OK. Mostly I was concerned whether I'm really bending at the hips or whether I'm bending at the waist. He said I was OK on that score. I am getting almost tempted to try an all out 2K. Almost. Not quite. Not today. Oh dear. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Carla:<br /><br />Like I told your hubby tonight in a PM, you should do a 2K, but only if you're sure you won't hurt your back.<br /><br />-- Mark

[old] billandmargaret · Post by **[old] billandmargaret** » January 23rd, 2006, 1:21 am

Thanks for the training tips. Some times the amount of training info can be overwhelming, so I appreciate your willingness to get me started with a few tips.<br /><br />Carla, thanks for your mind tricks. Now I can see why you get such great race times. I tried out the 10 strokes at a time one today, not attempting a Pb but on a prime-the-pump row to get my body used to those faster speeds I'll need to get new PBs.<br /><br />Mark, where can I find the wolverine plan? I have not studied the training forum, so much of it exceeds my abilities and available time. But I am interested in getting more competitive to the extent that I can in 30 to 60 minutes, 3 to 6 days a week. Half a life time ago on college crew I think I erged a 2k in around 7:30. I'm imagining that it should still be possible for me to row a 2k in 8:00 if I train well, even without 2 hours a day of training. Right now, my PB is 8:34, much better than a year before, but definitely room for improvement.<br /><br />One thing Mark mentioned that I may need to do is to add light days, either cross-training or light rows. My PBs seem to be during months when I rowed at least a few days a week but not every day.<br /><br />Carla, I think I need to learn from you to not bolt out at a rabbit's pace, way faster than I have ever maintained in the past, and expect to finish the piece. Maybe if I attempted smaller increments of improvements, like cutting my pace down by just 1 or 2 seconds per 500 meters at a time, that would be more realistic.<br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />Margaret

[old] Krysta Coleman · Post by **[old] Krysta Coleman** » January 24th, 2006, 1:45 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(seat5 @ Jan 22 2006, 08:01 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Should be according to statistics, I guess. When you race a 2K, as opposed to training, what do you rate? Do you know the MPS? And how many strokes does it take you to get the pace where it belongs? I can't do a good start from a stopped flywheel and it takes me quite a few strokes to get the pace down. <br /><br />I watched some live races today and luckily Paul Flack took a few minutes to see if my stroke was OK. Mostly I was concerned whether I'm really bending at the hips or whether I'm bending at the waist. He said I was OK on that score. I am getting almost tempted to try an all out 2K. Almost. Not quite. Not today. Oh dear. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Carla, I don't want to be pressuring you into hurting your back either, but I know everyone is dying to see a 2k race from you. I have to agree with Carole, that you could be seeing a lot of medals in your future. If this isn't the time for it yet though, we understand.<br /><br />I was surprised to hear you say earlier that you race at 10MPS. I do almost all my <i>training</i> at S10PS now (excluding sprint intervals) but for a PB attempt, I still strap in and rate up closer to 30 SPM for a 2k (8.5 - 9mps). For mid-distance races, I seem to average around 27 SPM (9 - 9.5mps). But I am not one to say what is the <i>right</i> thing to do - this is just what seems to feel natural for me. Maybe experiment a little?<br /><br />- Krysta

[old] mallard · Post by **[old] mallard** » January 24th, 2006, 5:11 am

Did a ranking 60 minute piece PB last night which took me to 19th out of 53 for the 30-39 age group - 13,005m. Pretty pleased about that! <br /><br />Planning another 30R20 for the CTC on Wednesday so I'll do a long steady row this evening just to keep ticking over.

[old] seat5 · Post by **[old] seat5** » January 24th, 2006, 9:10 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mallard @ Jan 24 2006, 09:11 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Did a ranking 60 minute piece PB last night which took me to 19th out of 53 for the 30-39 age group - 13,005m. Pretty pleased about that! <br /><br />Planning another 30R20 for the CTC on Wednesday so I'll do a long steady row this evening just to keep ticking over. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Hey, change the 60 minute score in your sig!!!<br />Congratulations, Mallard! and have fun on you 30@20. I go again tonight. Not really looking forward to it.

[old] seat5 · Post by **[old] seat5** » January 24th, 2006, 9:16 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Krysta Coleman @ Jan 24 2006, 05:45 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(seat5 @ Jan 22 2006, 08:01 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Should be according to statistics, I guess. When you race a 2K, as opposed to training, what do you rate? Do you know the MPS? And how many strokes does it take you to get the pace where it belongs? I can't do a good start from a stopped flywheel and it takes me quite a few strokes to get the pace down. <br /><br />I watched some live races today and luckily Paul Flack took a few minutes to see if my stroke was OK. Mostly I was concerned whether I'm really bending at the hips or whether I'm bending at the waist. He said I was OK on that score. I am getting almost tempted to try an all out 2K. Almost. Not quite. Not today. Oh dear. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Carla, I don't want to be pressuring you into hurting your back either, but I know everyone is dying to see a 2k race from you. I have to agree with Carole, that you could be seeing a lot of medals in your future. If this isn't the time for it yet though, we understand.<br /><br />I was surprised to hear you say earlier that you race at 10MPS. I do almost all my <i>training</i> at S10PS now (excluding sprint intervals) but for a PB attempt, I still strap in and rate up closer to 30 SPM for a 2k (8.5 - 9mps). For mid-distance races, I seem to average around 27 SPM (9 - 9.5mps). But I am not one to say what is the <i>right</i> thing to do - this is just what seems to feel natural for me. Maybe experiment a little?<br /><br />- Krysta <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />This 5K was the first ranked piece I've done really free rate, except my ancient 2K and 500m PBs, and also with the straps. 10MPS or more (like on HM and M) helps me stay steady usually. But I can see that all the rowing per PaulS makes it possible to go faster when strapped and speeding up the recovery. I'll have to do all the ranked pieces over at a truly free rate and see what happens. Right now my 30 min piece is a 20 spm one. <br /><br />I don't know if I'll ever truly race but do plan to make myself do a real 2K this season. In the light of recent events, I'll make sure to get screen shots and verify it it's anything notable.<br /><br />Are you going to Crash B's? It would be fun to meet you!

[old] mallard · Post by **[old] mallard** » January 24th, 2006, 9:36 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(seat5 @ Jan 24 2006, 01:10 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mallard @ Jan 24 2006, 09:11 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Did a ranking 60 minute piece PB last night which took me to 19th out of 53 for the 30-39 age group - 13,005m. Pretty pleased about that! <br /><br />Planning another 30R20 for the CTC on Wednesday so I'll do a long steady row this evening just to keep ticking over. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Hey, change the 60 minute score in your sig!!!<br />Congratulations, Mallard! and have fun on you 30@20. I go again tonight. Not really looking forward to it. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Oh yeah - hadn't noticed that! <br />Good luck for yor 30@20

[old] mpukita · Post by **[old] mpukita** » January 24th, 2006, 9:45 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mallard @ Jan 24 2006, 05:11 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Did a ranking 60 minute piece PB last night which took me to 19th out of 53 for the 30-39 age group - 13,005m. Pretty pleased about that! <br /><br />Planning another 30R20 for the CTC on Wednesday so I'll do a long steady row this evening just to keep ticking over. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Nice row Jennie ... congrats!

[old] sirrobin · Post by **[old] sirrobin** » February 4th, 2006, 10:00 pm

At the end of January I devised a plan to break 6000 meters in a 30-minute piece by the end of February. I added "Tuesday morning Trials" to my weekly routine this week (I do like alliterations!) And on Thursday, I did my 30-Minute Thursday in 6014!! Ha! Now what?! <br /><br />Hey, I went to the Beach Sprints today in Long Beach, CA to see how the real athletes do it. Especially those people in the way-older-than-me categories are so inspiring! My personal best could not compete with them today, but they give me something to shoot for. I want to be like them some day.<br /><br />Anyone over 45 competing at that level -- thank you!<br /><br />Robin<br />

[old] sirrobin · Post by **[old] sirrobin** » February 4th, 2006, 10:09 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(sirrobin @ Feb 4 2006, 07:00 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><br />Especially those people in the way-older-than-me categories are so inspiring! <br /><br />Anyone over 45 competing at that level -- thank you!<br /><br />Robin <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />That was a non sequitur. 45 is not even a little older than I am! <br /><br />Robin

[old] seat5 · Post by **[old] seat5** » February 5th, 2006, 12:03 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(sirrobin @ Feb 5 2006, 02:00 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>At the end of January I devised a plan to break 6000 meters in a 30-minute piece by the end of February. I added "Tuesday morning Trials" to my weekly routine this week (I do like alliterations!) And on Thursday, I did my 30-Minute Thursday in 6014!! Ha! Now what?! <br /><br />Hey, I went to the Beach Sprints today in Long Beach, CA to see how the real athletes do it. Especially those people in the way-older-than-me categories are so inspiring! My personal best could not compete with them today, but they give me something to shoot for. I want to be like them some day.<br /><br />Anyone over 45 competing at that level -- thank you!<br /><br />Robin <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Good one, Robin! Now you'll just have to set your goal higher. I wonder how far you can stretch that out before the end of February?<br /><br />Next time you do your 30 min session, you'll know what pace you have to beat to get a little further down the river. You could start out pretty much the same, and then give it a little more gas at the end and there you have an automatic PB. Go for it!!!

[old] kinley · Post by **[old] kinley** » February 5th, 2006, 8:41 am

<br />Robin ----<br /><br />If you attempt to set a PB every time you get on the machine, you'll probably end up erging less often. It just becomes too painful to contemplate (the "automatic PB" concept somewhat eludes me, though Carla's strategy is sound).<br /><br />Why not bask in the glory a little bit? You can put "recovery row" in your log to assuage any guilt.<br /><br />>>>------> Kinley<br />

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