3000m Handicap Race

[old] Sir Pirate · Post by **[old] Sir Pirate** » December 17th, 2004, 5:36 am

3000m Handicap Race Still 4 slots available for the latest instalment of the handicap series. Sunday 19th December 2004 at 17:30 GMT. Sign up today!! Sir Pirate

[old] SlugButt · Post by **[old] SlugButt** » December 17th, 2004, 12:07 pm

Thanks for the heads up. I signed up and listed my most recent 2k time. I 'd welcome recommendations on what to use as a handicap time. David/SlugButt

[old] Sir Pirate · Post by **[old] Sir Pirate** » December 17th, 2004, 12:12 pm

I would say 2000m PB +3.5secs/500m as a guide. Sir Pirate

[old] SlugButt · Post by **[old] SlugButt** » December 17th, 2004, 12:23 pm

Will do - thanks! Let's see . . . doing the math it looks like I'll need to start . . . about . . . three days in front of the rest of you!

[old] Sir Pirate · Post by **[old] Sir Pirate** » December 17th, 2004, 12:27 pm

Thinking about it +3.5/500m may be a bit harsh. 2K+4.5 is more like it. Sorry to false feed you information. We could take an average for all that enter and see what figure comes up. Sir Pirate

[old] Andrew Burrows · Post by **[old] Andrew Burrows** » December 17th, 2004, 12:40 pm

Nothing to do with me I know and I will bow to your superior knowledge Sir Pirate but double the D add 5 would say +2.5/500m wouldnt it?

[old] Sir Pirate · Post by **[old] Sir Pirate** » December 17th, 2004, 12:48 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Andrew Burrows @ Dec 17 2004, 04:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Nothing to do with me I know and I will bow to your superior knowledge Sir Pirate but double the D add 5 would say +2.5/500m wouldnt it?  </td></tr></table> You have been listening to Ranger haven’t you. We are racing 3000m, Could you row 3000m at 2K +2.5. I know for sure that I don't fancy rowing it at 1:38.5 pace. I don't fancy going through the 1st 2K at 6.34 then rowing another 1000m on top at the same pace. You can try it if you want though Sir Pirate

[old] Andrew Burrows · Post by **[old] Andrew Burrows** » December 17th, 2004, 12:53 pm

Ranger says double the D add 3 which is great because it rhyms but is a little bit too fast. Im saying double the D add 5. In answer to your question, I dont know if I could row 3000m in (my case) 1:40.8 but I wouldnt have thought Id be far off. Your saying add 4.5/500m which would be 1:42.8 for me and thats not far from my 5k pace so I will agree to meet you half way and that way you can save face as it means your original prediction is correct !

[old] Sir Pirate · Post by **[old] Sir Pirate** » December 17th, 2004, 1:00 pm

It just goes to prove that I am crap at 3000m, got to win on Sunday some how Sir Pirate

[old] ceesie · Post by **[old] ceesie** » December 18th, 2004, 3:19 am

Based on the entries so far here's an overview of the handicaps. A second overflow race has been set up as well. At race day we'll divide in more than one race and determine final handicaps when more than 8 rowers show up. <img src='http://www.rerow.com/pics/3K_handicap_schema.GIF' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> 2 notes: I've entered a dummy time for Bert. Bert, can you provide a target time? I've applied the 'double the D, add 5' rule to Slugbutt's target time. Let me know David if you want to change it.

[old] Canoeist · Post by **[old] Canoeist** » December 18th, 2004, 12:20 pm

I can't make the 17:30 GMT race. I think that I could make it at 18:00. My Le Tour time is my only hard 3K this year, with at time of 10:04.3 Paul Flack

[old] ceesie · Post by **[old] ceesie** » December 18th, 2004, 2:02 pm

OK, let's push back the start half an hour then. Let's make sure though that everyone has made themselves familiar with the handicap rules so we don't have to waste time at the start. Mark made an excellent overview of the handicap etiquette a while ago over here: <a href='http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?s ... #entry9599' target='_blank'>Handicap Race Rules</a> btw, I've updated the handicap calcs per the post above.

[old] SlugButt · Post by **[old] SlugButt** » December 18th, 2004, 3:20 pm

Hi Cees - Thanks for calculating an estimated time for me. I'm looking forward to the 3k. David

[old] Canoeist · Post by **[old] Canoeist** » December 19th, 2004, 8:56 am

I didn't want you to delay the entire race just for me. I thought you would have the second heat, which had no one entered at the time, go off at 18:00. But, it is done now. Thanks, Paul Flack

[old] ceesie · Post by **[old] ceesie** » December 19th, 2004, 1:57 pm

OK, we're organized over two heats for todays handicap race: Heat 1: Chip 12:31, Lead Rower bert 11:57.0, 0:34.0 Alain 11:48, 0:43.0 Keith_KreycikML54(11:30), 1:01.0 Matt 11:24.0, 1:07.0 Ernie (target 10:42), 1:49.0 Heat 2 (start 5 minutes later) Alex Huckstepp (10:30), Lead Rower SlugButt/David, 0:01.5 DougB 10:19, 0:11.0 Canoeist (Paul - target 10:04.3), 0:25.7 Sir Pirate 9:58.5, 0:31.5 Cees (target 9:56), 0:34.0

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