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I live on the 5th floor of an apartment building and have the space for either, money is always a factor but my main decider is this: Is the model E really that much quieter than the model D? If its not all that much quieter, then I'm just going for the model D for the smaller amount of space it takes up when stored and the price difference, but if the model E is a whole lot quieter then Im going to splurge so as not to upset both the girlfriend and the neighbors. Ill be using it on slides as well with the fan attachment thingie if that makes a difference at all.

Has anyone upset their neighbors in an apartment building with a rower on slides? Seems like the slides could theoretically upset the downstairs neighbors. I plan on putting the slides on a hard rubber mat to dampen it as well.

Thanks for the help!

Buy the E with a PM4 and get Row Pro. Also pick up a floor pad like gyms use under treadmills. It should help reduce any vibrations through the floor to you neighbors below. And when you sweat, you won't get the carpet wet. As long as you don't place it next to the adjoining wall of your neighbor's bed room and do your workouts at 3 AM, you should hear few complaints, unless th ebuilding was constructed like a cheap roadside motel.

Buy the D with PM4 and what you save on the E will pay for RowPro.

Ds and Es are very similar, but the E is built like a Hummer so that it's more resistant to the abuse rowing machines get in public gyms.

The main thing I dislike about the E is the fixed monitor arm. It's at the wrong height and in the wrong position for me. (I normally row on model Cs and Ds in Basingstoke, UK, but had two weeks on model Es at the Y in San Jose, CA, USA last year, just before the CRASH-Bs.)

Model E and D make the same ammount of noise. The D is a bit more compact because the legs are not as tall and can be stood up on end when not using.

Ds and Es are very similar, but the E is built like a Hummer so that it's more resistant to the abuse rowing machines get in public gyms.

Huh. Didn't know that. The only difference that I noticed on the D vs. E is that the rail is elevated higher than on the D which I personally liked because of knee and hip ailments. All of the knee/hip rehab around here is done on Model E's. Did not notice any difference in the build of either model other than the rail elevation. Rowing on the D was just like rowing on my C only a bit smoother and much more quiet. Rowing on the E was a bit strange at first because you are really up off the ground but once you get used to it it is quite nice. Don't know if being higher up on the E would lessen the noise. The D & E are much more quiet than the C that much I do know. Montanaandy

Montanaandy wrote:Did not notice any difference in the build of either model other than the rail elevation.

The monitor arm is fixed so you can lean on it. The legs are six inches higher (so further to fall off after a hard all out 2K). The chain is nickel coated. The chain guard is redesigned and more enclosed.

http://www.concept2.com/us/indoorrowers/d_e_compare.asp

thanks for the advice guys. just picked up the D and am shopping around for floor padding now. see some of you guys on rowpro!