Concept2 Forum

I did a quick search for this, didn't see it mentioned anywhere, surprised since it it is designed specifically for the Concept 2 erg's.

I saw the link for the Core Perform "unstable seat" at the US Rowing site, wondering if anyone is using one and if it does help (or not) mid section muscles directly to help us in the boats?

This was discussed many times in the past (last year or perhaps the year before.)

It definitely helps the oblique stomach muscles. You can really feel it. You will have to row with straps (possibly loose straps once you get used to it). Rowing strapless can easily lead to falling of the machine.

It also raises the seat about an inch. If I use the wobbly setting it causes a little friction burns on my bum for long rows (25K or more) but it is not bad enough for it to bother me. I was using it all the time but removed it because my wife didn't like it. I'll but it back on when she reverts to exclusive OTW rowing. Paul Smith alternates between wobbly and fixed settings on intervals and workouts.

It is a good product. It is heavy which is not an issue unless you regularly move the erg (which I do) but even then not a big deal.

Well I tried a couple more searches, still not coming up with any previous discussions on the topic.

I tried.

fishbust wrote:Well I tried a couple more searches, still not coming up with any previous discussions on the topic.

I tried.

You didn't try very damn hard. Try this:

http://www.c2forum.com/viewtopic.php?p= ... orm#101508

Bob S.

[quote="Bob S
You didn't try very damn hard. Try this:

http://www.c2forum.com/viewtopic.php?p= ... orm#101508

Bob S.[/quote]

I didn't try very damn hard??? Bob what kind of idiot would it take to think of typing in [cp1?] for a search for Core Perform? And it is 2 words, not 1. I now see you have to condense the 2 words into 1 word for it to come up at all, or just use the "secret" cp1 "code" with a question mark. You really must be kidding.

Wellthanks forthe h1 formy q1 forthe cp1! Muchappreciated? So far my impression with this forum is great. I will try not to ask any more questions that may annoy you into thinking you must respond. You really don't need to respond at all Bob if you have nothing good to say.

Fishbust,

If you didn't know the CP-1 terminology, you probably haven't seen the web page. http://www.ps-sport.net/ (click on link on the left).

Also you can search the UK forum or ask there.

Oh, and Bob can be a bit cranky but is usually very sweet and helpful, (and helpful even when cranky).

Nosmo wrote:Fishbust,

If you didn't know the CP-1 terminology, you probably haven't seen the web page. http://www.ps-sport.net/ (click on link on the left).

Also you can search the UK forum or ask there.

Oh, and Bob can be a bit cranky but is usually very sweet and helpful, (and helpful even when cranky).

Thanks again Nosmo and yes me and bob have been talking through email, seems we can both be a bit 'cranky'. All is well.

Fish,
If you get a core perform, do tell me how it works for you. I'm thinking about getting one for my erg when I go home for the summer.

Thanks and good luck

bloomp, will do. I ordered one last night. Should have it within a week, will use it for a few days and post you an update on how it goes.

I see you've already made up your mind (and ordered one), but for others, you'll find a discussion of this product starting in May 2006 "here" --there were similar discussions on the "old forum", but I can't point to them, as the search feature for that archived section of the board doesn't seem to be working just now.

Hope you enjoy your CP-1!

Alissa

I had the same problem with the idea behind the CORE perform as I do for the ROW balance, namely: if the "reward" from using the device is considered to be involvement from ab muscles in keeping your balance, then the payoff comes only if your sense of balance is bad. If you have a normal sense of balance (you are sober and not suffering from some kind of brain defect or injury), there's very little payoff in using the device.

I've had my CORE perform for several months; I bought it with the idea that the "give" to the seat would make it more comfortable on long rows--this has panned out as the only real benefit I get from using it; I've used it on many hour-long rows and have often completely forgotten that it's been in the unlocked-unstable position until the end of the row

On another rowing forum, someone asked how realistic the CORE perform could be if your feet are a stable platform, indeed your feet and the center of the seat form a nice stable triangle(albeit a long thin one); the only time I feel any extra muscle involvement is if I don't get my butt centered on the seat exactly---and then it's quads and inner thighs on the recovery to maintain balance, no abs...

starskeptic wrote:the only time I feel any extra muscle involvement is if I don't get my butt centered on the seat exactly---and then it's quads and inner thighs on the recovery to maintain balance, no abs...

It is probably possible to only use the quads and inner thighs, but I would guess if you do a 25 or 30K row you will be a bit sore on the sides of your abdomen.

It is probably possible to only use the quads and inner thighs, but I would guess if you do a 25 or 30K row you will be a bit sore on the sides of your abdomen.

first, as I said, the only time I have experienced any kind of extra muscle involvement was when my position was off on the seat and second,
I think that if my abs haven't gotten sore after extensive use of the core perform during the JVTC, that is--950,000 meters....it ain't gonna happen..

starskeptic wrote:I had the same problem with the idea behind the CORE perform as I do for the ROW balance, namely: if the "reward" from using the device is considered to be involvement from ab muscles in keeping your balance, then the payoff comes only if your sense of balance is bad. If you have a normal sense of balance (you are sober and not suffering from some kind of brain defect or injury), there's very little payoff in using the device.

I've had my CORE perform for several months; I bought it with the idea that the "give" to the seat would make it more comfortable on long rows--this has panned out as the only real benefit I get from using it; I've used it on many hour-long rows and have often completely forgotten that it's been in the unlocked-unstable position until the end of the row

On another rowing forum, someone asked how realistic the CORE perform could be if your feet are a stable platform, indeed your feet and the center of the seat form a nice stable triangle(albeit a long thin one); the only time I feel any extra muscle involvement is if I don't get my butt centered on the seat exactly---and then it's quads and inner thighs on the recovery to maintain balance, no abs...

Aha, I see another marketing opportunity. Someone needs to invent a gimbal contraption for the erg to use in conjunction with the CORE platform.

Actually, I think then you wouldn't use the CORE platform.

starskeptic wrote:

It is probably possible to only use the quads and inner thighs, but I would guess if you do a 25 or 30K row you will be a bit sore on the sides of your abdomen.

first, as I said, the only time I have experienced any kind of extra muscle involvement was when my position was off on the seat and second,
I think that if my abs haven't gotten sore after extensive use of the core perform during the JVTC, that is--950,000 meters....it ain't gonna happen..

No problem SS, just give it a try strapless and see how it goes.

Warning: Use caution, especially if you are on a Model E with the longer fall to the floor.