How do you use the pace boat?

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How do you use the pace boat?

Post by miket-nyc » March 8th, 2023, 8:24 am

I've been rowing for about a month, mostly doing 30 minute workouts and using the Just Row settin (on a PM3). But I'd like some way to keep me rowing at the same intensity throughout and also challenge me some.

This is what I figured the pace boat is for, but I can't get it to do that. It always goes at the same speed I'm rowing, and the instructions to make it do anything else aren't particularly clear. Can someone explain how it works? For example, if I want to go 6000 meters in 30 minutes. I'd like to have the pace boat go at that speed and force me to keep up. (And I'd like to be able to tweak the speed up or down during the workout, if the system allows it).

Or if this isn't what the pace boat is for, is there some other way to get the PM to do what I want? Now, if I have a goal I want to hit, I have to keep doing math in my head to know if I'm going at the right speed.

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Re: How do you use the pace boat?

Post by c2jonw » March 8th, 2023, 8:38 am

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Re: How do you use the pace boat?

Post by Tsnor » March 8th, 2023, 10:56 am

miket-nyc wrote:
March 8th, 2023, 8:24 am
I've been rowing for about a month, mostly doing 30 minute workouts and using the Just Row settin (on a PM3). ...
There's a trick. You can't get there with "just row"

Set up a single time or single distance workout for longer than you plan to row.
Now you can see the option to set the pace boat time using the instructions C2JONW posted above.

Stop whenever you like, the single time workout becomes a "just row" workout if you end it before it completes. (On a PM5 you'd end it by pressing "menu" button. Not sure if this works on a PM3 (anyone?). If you stop rowing on a PM3 eventually it will timeout. "The PM turns off automatically after a couple of minutes of inactivity. ")

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Re: How do you use the pace boat?

Post by Tsnor » March 8th, 2023, 11:05 am

miket-nyc wrote:
March 8th, 2023, 8:24 am
...is there some other way to get the PM to do what I want? Now, if I have a goal I want to hit, I have to keep doing math in my head to know if I'm going at the right speed.
Easiest way to track a goal is to set up the workout to match your goal. Of course you lose the distraction of doing math in your head.

examples.

Your goal is hold a 2:30 split for 30 mins. Set up "new workout, select workout, single time, 30 mins, (optional paceboat)" then the all data screen show you time left, current split, cumulative split. https://www.concept2.com/service/monito ... ay-options

Your goal is hold a 2:30 split for 5K meters. Set up "new workout, select workout, single distance, 5K meters, (optional paceboat)" then the all data screen shows you meters left, current split, cumulative split.

IF you have not yet tried using the "Concept2 log" and "ERGDATA for pm3/pm4" then strongly recommend it. You'd need an android phone and a printer cable to connect to the pm3. Then you run ergdata on the phone, it uploads to the C2 log.

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Re: How do you use the pace boat?

Post by Ombrax » March 8th, 2023, 2:24 pm

I've never bothered to use the "predefined" pace boat, but every now and then I use the "Re-row" option, which is basically using yourself (from a row you've recently done) as the pace boat. It's a useful feature if I want to push myself just a bit harder than the last time (or do the same thing). As mentioned above, you can't re-row "Just Row" sessions. It has to be something where you defined the workout from the start. (but that's what all my workouts are, so for me that's not a real limitation)

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Re: How do you use the pace boat?

Post by jamesg » March 9th, 2023, 2:52 am

Or if this isn't what the pace boat is for, is there some other way to get the PM to do what I want? Now, if I have a goal I want to hit, I have to keep doing math in my head to know if I'm going at the right speed.
The PM has lots of possibilities. You can see current and average Pace/Watts at all times. Take some time to learn how to use it.

Took me 20 years to discover I could see any specific distance rowed in the past; if of any interest of course, and in there.
08-1940, 179cm, 75kg post-op (3 bp January 2025).

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Re: How do you use the pace boat?

Post by Steve1960VA » March 10th, 2023, 11:42 am

I'm not sure, if you're asking how to make the pace boat appear (and how to set monitor), or, how we make use, of the pace boat screen.

I think the monitor setting has, already, been addressed.

As for how I make use of this (very nice) option, I'll say I use it, every time I'm on the rower (say 5 mornings, per week). My goal, each morning, is to do a 10K, so, I set a 10K, into the monitor, and set a pace, which I think I can hold, for the 10K. If I will, only, stick to this pace, and not try to gain, on the pace boat then, generally, I'm able to complete the 10K. My problem is that I'll begin, keeping pace, with the pace boat, then, after 2-3K, or so, I'll begin to feel good / strong (relatively :) ), and begin to move ahead of the pace boat. So much so, many times, that the pace boat goes out of sight. Generally, when the pace boat goes out of sight, I've gone out too strong, and have to stop, early. Say, at 8500 meters, or so.

Anyway, I, really, like the pace boat feature, and I make good use, of it.

Hope this helps, somehow. :)
Male. Virginia, USA. Born 1960. 6'4" (1.93 m). 210 pounds (95 kg). C2 Model D, PM 5 (original model).

Am erging for fitness.

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