RowErg creeping forwards
RowErg creeping forwards
Do any of you have issues with the RowErg slowly creeping forwards during a session?
If I do a 10 km session it's not uncommon that I end up more than half a meter forwards from where I started. So it's only a tiny move every stroke, but it's definitely there.
I tried to pay attention to what's causing it and it seems to be twofold:
1) At the catch (or the beginning of the drive) there is no real resistance yet from the chain and I think I'm pushing the rower away from under me a little bit every stroke. Of course at the end of the drive I don't apply such a violent force at the machine so it moves forwards a tiny bit.
2) I'm a bit heavy (110 kg) and I think the RowErg flexes just a tiny bit when I'm all in front. This causes a force that pushes the front legs and the back legs away from each other. When I roll back I push more on the back legs (gravity) than the front legs so if the RowErg unflexes during the drive it would mean that the front legs could move a tiny bit forward as well.
This all combined with a slippery (laminate) floor with some dust on it (it's the attic, don't judge me for not vacuuming there every day ) probably causes my wandering RowErg.
I clean the feet regularly with a damp cloth to clean the dust off but it doesn't make very much of a difference.
Usually it's not a big problem, but when I'm really concentrating and pushing very hard I don't pay any attention to where I'm going. And straight ahead (about a meter from my startingpoint) are the stairs
I don't think I want to find out what happens if the front of the rower tips over that edge.
I thought of laying a wooden beam in front of the stairs so that would keep me from falling down, but maybe you have any ideas to stop this creeping from happening at all?
For instance I once tried to put a rubbery yoga mat under the rower but that only made it worse
If I do a 10 km session it's not uncommon that I end up more than half a meter forwards from where I started. So it's only a tiny move every stroke, but it's definitely there.
I tried to pay attention to what's causing it and it seems to be twofold:
1) At the catch (or the beginning of the drive) there is no real resistance yet from the chain and I think I'm pushing the rower away from under me a little bit every stroke. Of course at the end of the drive I don't apply such a violent force at the machine so it moves forwards a tiny bit.
2) I'm a bit heavy (110 kg) and I think the RowErg flexes just a tiny bit when I'm all in front. This causes a force that pushes the front legs and the back legs away from each other. When I roll back I push more on the back legs (gravity) than the front legs so if the RowErg unflexes during the drive it would mean that the front legs could move a tiny bit forward as well.
This all combined with a slippery (laminate) floor with some dust on it (it's the attic, don't judge me for not vacuuming there every day ) probably causes my wandering RowErg.
I clean the feet regularly with a damp cloth to clean the dust off but it doesn't make very much of a difference.
Usually it's not a big problem, but when I'm really concentrating and pushing very hard I don't pay any attention to where I'm going. And straight ahead (about a meter from my startingpoint) are the stairs
I don't think I want to find out what happens if the front of the rower tips over that edge.
I thought of laying a wooden beam in front of the stairs so that would keep me from falling down, but maybe you have any ideas to stop this creeping from happening at all?
For instance I once tried to put a rubbery yoga mat under the rower but that only made it worse
1976 male from the Netherlands; 1m98 , 110kg, started RowErging in 03/2022
PB's: 100m=0:18.6, 500m=1:44.3; 1k=3:51.6, 2k=8:01.8, 5k=21:29.3, 6k=26:29.0, 10k=42:44.6, 30min=7,022m, 60min=13,304m (latest improvement in bold)
PB's: 100m=0:18.6, 500m=1:44.3; 1k=3:51.6, 2k=8:01.8, 5k=21:29.3, 6k=26:29.0, 10k=42:44.6, 30min=7,022m, 60min=13,304m (latest improvement in bold)
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Re: RowErg creeping forwards
I had the same problem when I used to row on a glossy porcelain tiled floor. I ended up wrapping some double sided carpet tape around each foot pad on the erg and sticking it to the floor. Worked a treat.Sandeman wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2022, 6:37 amDo any of you have issues with the RowErg slowly creeping forwards during a session?
If I do a 10 km session it's not uncommon that I end up more than half a meter forwards from where I started. So it's only a tiny move every stroke, but it's definitely there.
I tried to pay attention to what's causing it and it seems to be twofold:
1) At the catch (or the beginning of the drive) there is no real resistance yet from the chain and I think I'm pushing the rower away from under me a little bit every stroke. Of course at the end of the drive I don't apply such a violent force at the machine so it moves forwards a tiny bit.
2) I'm a bit heavy (110 kg) and I think the RowErg flexes just a tiny bit when I'm all in front. This causes a force that pushes the front legs and the back legs away from each other. When I roll back I push more on the back legs (gravity) than the front legs so if the RowErg unflexes during the drive it would mean that the front legs could move a tiny bit forward as well.
This all combined with a slippery (laminate) floor with some dust on it (it's the attic, don't judge me for not vacuuming there every day ) probably causes my wandering RowErg.
I clean the feet regularly with a damp cloth to clean the dust off but it doesn't make very much of a difference.
Usually it's not a big problem, but when I'm really concentrating and pushing very hard I don't pay any attention to where I'm going. And straight ahead (about a meter from my startingpoint) are the stairs
I don't think I want to find out what happens if the front of the rower tips over that edge.
I thought of laying a wooden beam in front of the stairs so that would keep me from falling down, but maybe you have any ideas to stop this creeping from happening at all?
For instance I once tried to put a rubbery yoga mat under the rower but that only made it worse
67 6' 4" 108kg
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6
Re: RowErg creeping forwards
Only really happened to me during sprints rather than steady state but definitiely there and worse on a shiney floor. A C2 erg mat helps - presumably availabe in all markets https://shop-uk.concept2.com/accessorie ... r-mat.html. This still wont be good enough for extreme sprints - for which many use weight plates on the feet. I've wedged mine with blocks of wood between two walls...it cant go anywhere, perfect!
Mike - 67 HWT 183
Re: RowErg creeping forwards
Oh wow... They actually have a solution for this already
1976 male from the Netherlands; 1m98 , 110kg, started RowErging in 03/2022
PB's: 100m=0:18.6, 500m=1:44.3; 1k=3:51.6, 2k=8:01.8, 5k=21:29.3, 6k=26:29.0, 10k=42:44.6, 30min=7,022m, 60min=13,304m (latest improvement in bold)
PB's: 100m=0:18.6, 500m=1:44.3; 1k=3:51.6, 2k=8:01.8, 5k=21:29.3, 6k=26:29.0, 10k=42:44.6, 30min=7,022m, 60min=13,304m (latest improvement in bold)
Re: RowErg creeping forwards
I put flat (not cupped) "washing machine footpads" under the four points where the C2 contacts the floor. Works like a charm.
Re: RowErg creeping forwards
Yet another option, when this was happening to me:
Harbor Freight mesh liner for toolbox shelves. You get a whole bunch for $7, and it works well.
https://www.harborfreight.com/tool-stor ... 67055.html
Edit: I realize the OP probably doesn't have access to Harbor Freight stuff, but might have something similar on hand, and those in the US will be able to find it.
Harbor Freight mesh liner for toolbox shelves. You get a whole bunch for $7, and it works well.
https://www.harborfreight.com/tool-stor ... 67055.html
Edit: I realize the OP probably doesn't have access to Harbor Freight stuff, but might have something similar on hand, and those in the US will be able to find it.
Re: RowErg creeping forwards
Good options, thnx.
I am indeed not in the US (or even close ) but there might be something similar here.
I'll see if I can find something suitable next week.
I am indeed not in the US (or even close ) but there might be something similar here.
I'll see if I can find something suitable next week.
1976 male from the Netherlands; 1m98 , 110kg, started RowErging in 03/2022
PB's: 100m=0:18.6, 500m=1:44.3; 1k=3:51.6, 2k=8:01.8, 5k=21:29.3, 6k=26:29.0, 10k=42:44.6, 30min=7,022m, 60min=13,304m (latest improvement in bold)
PB's: 100m=0:18.6, 500m=1:44.3; 1k=3:51.6, 2k=8:01.8, 5k=21:29.3, 6k=26:29.0, 10k=42:44.6, 30min=7,022m, 60min=13,304m (latest improvement in bold)
Re: RowErg creeping forwards
I have the Concept2 mat to catch sweat and other stuff. As my floor is quite smooth, it slips. Underneath the mat (under the pressure points of the RowErg feet, I added non-slip stickers (see https://www.amazon.nl/gp/product/B07D8T ... UTF8&psc=1).
Re: RowErg creeping forwards
In the NLs, you can go to an Action store and buy anti-slip pads. Put them under the rear legs of the rower.
Re: RowErg creeping forwards
Oh nice! I just was there this morning
Will have a look later on, thnx!
Will have a look later on, thnx!
1976 male from the Netherlands; 1m98 , 110kg, started RowErging in 03/2022
PB's: 100m=0:18.6, 500m=1:44.3; 1k=3:51.6, 2k=8:01.8, 5k=21:29.3, 6k=26:29.0, 10k=42:44.6, 30min=7,022m, 60min=13,304m (latest improvement in bold)
PB's: 100m=0:18.6, 500m=1:44.3; 1k=3:51.6, 2k=8:01.8, 5k=21:29.3, 6k=26:29.0, 10k=42:44.6, 30min=7,022m, 60min=13,304m (latest improvement in bold)
Re: RowErg creeping forwards
I had this problem when my rower was on a lacquered wooden floor. I fixed the problem by putting a thin rubber-backed yoga mat under the rear feet of the C2. It solved the problem instantly. Any rubbery mat should do the job as long as it's fairly thin.
Re: RowErg creeping forwards
I have read some topics about this. I believe it is (or can be) a matter of technique.
If I am not mistaken, compared to the time of the drive, the time of the recovery should be longer.
When I concentrate on doing a "forceful" and fast drive, followed by a recovery that takes
about 1,5 to 2 times that of the drive, then at the next catch the flywheel has slowed
down to the point that I feel a decent amount of resistance from the very start.