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Wonky Split Time On PM1 On Model B

Posted: May 23rd, 2022, 4:14 pm
by RowingCrazyCatMan
So in the past few months this has happened twice. It only happens on 1 or 2 strokes and then it goes back to normal. I'll be doing my usual 30 minute row at about a 2:00 split and then the split time will drop down to a 1:10 split for 1 stroke. It's only happened twice. Does anybody have any idea what could causing this? Batteries? Bad pickup wire? Reinitialize the monitor? Upgrade to a PM5? Dirty pickup wire sensor? Is it just some random fluke? Like I said, it's only happened twice in the last 3 or 4 months and I've been using the rower for about 3 1/2 years very regularly. I just want to make sure I'm ahead of a potential issue. Thanks in advance!

Re: Wonky Split Time On PM1 On Model B

Posted: May 23rd, 2022, 5:05 pm
by gvcormac
I think you've outlined the possibilities pretty well. New batteries is probably the easiest place to start. Bad connection is a likely cause, but difficult to troubleshoot. Carl will tell you to buy a PM5.

Re: Wonky Split Time On PM1 On Model B

Posted: May 23rd, 2022, 5:51 pm
by Ombrax
gvcormac wrote:
May 23rd, 2022, 5:05 pm
Carl will tell you to buy a PM5.
Ha!

Actually, most of the time I think it's a perfectly reasonable recommendation.

In this case I think he'd most likely tell the OP to check the wiring and the sensor first - in this case those would be the "Usual Suspects."

Since it's one of my favorite movies, and the tagline does seem to be appropriate...

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Re: Wonky Split Time On PM1 On Model B

Posted: May 23rd, 2022, 5:58 pm
by Carl Watts
Well in all fairness the PM1 made back in 1986 has probably had its day.

Personally I would buy a whole new Model D rower with a PM5, especially if what you currently have is a Model B, its well past its use by date.

I don't think you will look back and if your using it 3 or 4 times a week you will not regret it.

Re: Wonky Split Time On PM1 On Model B

Posted: May 24th, 2022, 4:36 am
by RowingCrazyCatMan
Carl Watts wrote:
May 23rd, 2022, 5:58 pm
Well in all fairness the PM1 made back in 1986 has probably had its day.

Personally I would buy a whole new Model D rower with a PM5, especially if what you currently have is a Model B, its well past its use by date.

I don't think you will look back and if your using it 3 or 4 times a week you will not regret it.
While I agree with you, at the moment that is a lot of money for me. As much as I want to buy a new machine, I would prefer to troubleshoot beginning with the cheapest approach and go from there.

Re: Wonky Split Time On PM1 On Model B

Posted: May 25th, 2022, 5:53 pm
by RowingCrazyCatMan
I cleaned the sensor and changed out the batteries in the PM1 along with a reinitialize.

Re: Wonky Split Time On PM1 On Model B

Posted: June 1st, 2022, 5:27 am
by RowingCrazyCatMan
Carl Watts wrote:
May 23rd, 2022, 5:58 pm
Well in all fairness the PM1 made back in 1986 has probably had its day.

Personally I would buy a whole new Model D rower with a PM5, especially if what you currently have is a Model B, its well past its use by date.

I don't think you will look back and if your using it 3 or 4 times a week you will not regret it.
You were right. I found a Model D on the Facebook market place for $300. It has a PM3 but it only has around 300,000 lifetime meters. The thing looks brand new. Shock cord is decent with some tightening to get me through until my new shock cord gets here. Time to sell the model B.

Re: Wonky Split Time On PM1 On Model B

Posted: June 1st, 2022, 8:01 am
by Carl Watts
Tips.

1. Only ever put quality Alkaline batteries in your monitor.

2. Attach a rope the diameter of the cord or smaller to both ends of the shock cord by stitching in a link and pull the cord out as it pulls the rope in. Swap the old cord for the new cord and pull it back in.

3. Update the monitor firmware, hardly anyone does this, its free via the utility on the C2 Website.

Re: Wonky Split Time On PM1 On Model B

Posted: June 1st, 2022, 12:25 pm
by gvcormac
RowingCrazyCatMan wrote:
June 1st, 2022, 5:27 am
You were right. I found a Model D on the Facebook market place for $300. It has a PM3 but it only has around 300,000 lifetime meters. The thing looks brand new. Shock cord is decent with some tightening to get me through until my new shock cord gets here. Time to sell the model B.
That's a great price. Well done.

I wonder if there's a post-COVID (for some definition of post) glut of equipment. A year ago you'd have been lucky to get a used one for three times that price.

Re: Wonky Split Time On PM1 On Model B

Posted: June 2nd, 2022, 2:51 pm
by RowingCrazyCatMan
Carl Watts wrote:
June 1st, 2022, 8:01 am
Tips.

1. Only ever put quality Alkaline batteries in your monitor.

2. Attach a rope the diameter of the cord or smaller to both ends of the shock cord by stitching in a link and pull the cord out as it pulls the rope in. Swap the old cord for the new cord and pull it back in.

3. Update the monitor firmware, hardly anyone does this, its free via the utility on the C2 Website.
I just changed out the shock cord. There is a difference. The old one was the original. The old one seemed ok with some tightening but I figured a 13 year old bungee cord will definitely not be as good as a new one. It was MUCH easier than changing out the shock cord on my model B!