A Comfortable Seat

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Re: A Comfortable Seat

Post by Zuman » April 21st, 2021, 10:26 am

Citius-Remex in the US: https://www.easygoingrowing.com/

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Re: A Comfortable Seat

Post by jackarabit » April 21st, 2021, 7:02 pm

The height of the perineal ridge on the C/R makes me flinch!! Hard to forget how hard it was to develop the lumbar flexibility to avoid carrying bodyweight on the comparable area of a racing bike saddle.
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Re: A Comfortable Seat

Post by ampire » April 21st, 2021, 11:34 pm

Theres a Citius Remex I saw on eBay, unusual for US. It does not look like a comfortable seat for me, but these things are very individual.

Personally, I really dislike the central ridge on the stock seat. That central ridge forms a hot spot after about 30 minutes and I hate it. I know in theory one doesn't put weight along it, but my bottom seems to. In contrast, the Endure-Row has a really minimal central rise which I greatly prefer.

However, personally a big downside for me with the Endure-Row is that it is much lower than the stock seat, which greatly bugged my upper back and neck because the result is the chain sprocket is higher relative to my torso. I added a 3/4" piece of adhesive backed minicell foam on top of the Endure-Row and 1/4" steel rails under the seat to elevate it back up, now the chain sprocket is relatively lower to my torso and so I can use normal foot positions, I am very happy with the result, greatly reduced severe pain I was experiencing around the base of my neck. I had surgery at T4-T5 for a spinal cord tumor and there are some lingering issues above and below that area, some things make it more excitable than others. For a long time it felt like I could never pull with a lot of force per stroke without risking post workout neck and upper back pain, now I can do low rate higher wattage stuff on a regular basis and not have to worry about it. Of equal importance, my bottom doesn't get as sore as the stock seat either.
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Re: A Comfortable Seat

Post by mict450 » April 22nd, 2021, 2:24 am

The various posts show how idiosyncratic our responses are to a similar seat pad, viz: the CR ProW. I do feel, however, that there must be some sort of perineal ridge to support the pelvic floor during the stroke cycle, tailored to the individual, of course, whether a pad or seat top.

The stock mod D seat was a bit too flat for me, whereas the mod B has a bit more contour that gives me just the right amount of support.

In the past, Alex (winniewinser) suggested putting a rolled up sock under the perineum to simulate the feel of the CR pad. As an elderly male who suffers from an enlarged prostate, that proved to be highly uncomfortable! To their credit, the folks at CR do provide inserts with varying degrees of firmness to customize the fit. I suspect using the pad without any insert at all, should take care of the senior males among us who suffer from that all too common malady.
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Re: A Comfortable Seat

Post by winniewinser » April 22nd, 2021, 6:20 am

mict450 wrote:
April 22nd, 2021, 2:24 am
The various posts show how idiosyncratic our responses are to a similar seat pad, viz: the CR ProW. I do feel, however, that there must be some sort of perineal ridge to support the pelvic floor during the stroke cycle, tailored to the individual, of course, whether a pad or seat top.

The stock mod D seat was a bit too flat for me, whereas the mod B has a bit more contour that gives me just the right amount of support.

In the past, Alex (winniewinser) suggested putting a rolled up sock under the perineum to simulate the feel of the CR pad. As an elderly male who suffers from an enlarged prostate, that proved to be highly uncomfortable! To their credit, the folks at CR do provide inserts with varying degrees of firmness to customize the fit. I suspect using the pad without any insert at all, should take care of the senior males among us who suffer from that all too common malady.
:D :lol: .....that was before I got my Citius Remex :lol: ........I had it something like a sock or cloth rolled up under the C2 foam seat pad. For me the real CR seat pad has helped loads but I do find it moves on the erg seat a bit and need to work out how to secure it during rows (it still needs to be removed for my wife to use the erg)
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Re: A Comfortable Seat

Post by ampire » April 22nd, 2021, 10:03 am

winniewinser wrote:
April 22nd, 2021, 6:20 am
mict450 wrote:
April 22nd, 2021, 2:24 am
The various posts show how idiosyncratic our responses are to a similar seat pad, viz: the CR ProW. I do feel, however, that there must be some sort of perineal ridge to support the pelvic floor during the stroke cycle, tailored to the individual, of course, whether a pad or seat top.

The stock mod D seat was a bit too flat for me, whereas the mod B has a bit more contour that gives me just the right amount of support.

In the past, Alex (winniewinser) suggested putting a rolled up sock under the perineum to simulate the feel of the CR pad. As an elderly male who suffers from an enlarged prostate, that proved to be highly uncomfortable! To their credit, the folks at CR do provide inserts with varying degrees of firmness to customize the fit. I suspect using the pad without any insert at all, should take care of the senior males among us who suffer from that all too common malady.
:D :lol: .....that was before I got my Citius Remex :lol: ........I had it something like a sock or cloth rolled up under the C2 foam seat pad. For me the real CR seat pad has helped loads but I do find it moves on the erg seat a bit and need to work out how to secure it during rows (it still needs to be removed for my wife to use the erg)
Buy a second erg for her, and better yet buy slides so you can row as a pair.
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Re: A Comfortable Seat

Post by winniewinser » April 22nd, 2021, 10:05 am

ampire wrote:
April 22nd, 2021, 10:03 am
winniewinser wrote:
April 22nd, 2021, 6:20 am
mict450 wrote:
April 22nd, 2021, 2:24 am
The various posts show how idiosyncratic our responses are to a similar seat pad, viz: the CR ProW. I do feel, however, that there must be some sort of perineal ridge to support the pelvic floor during the stroke cycle, tailored to the individual, of course, whether a pad or seat top.

The stock mod D seat was a bit too flat for me, whereas the mod B has a bit more contour that gives me just the right amount of support.

In the past, Alex (winniewinser) suggested putting a rolled up sock under the perineum to simulate the feel of the CR pad. As an elderly male who suffers from an enlarged prostate, that proved to be highly uncomfortable! To their credit, the folks at CR do provide inserts with varying degrees of firmness to customize the fit. I suspect using the pad without any insert at all, should take care of the senior males among us who suffer from that all too common malady.
:D :lol: .....that was before I got my Citius Remex :lol: ........I had it something like a sock or cloth rolled up under the C2 foam seat pad. For me the real CR seat pad has helped loads but I do find it moves on the erg seat a bit and need to work out how to secure it during rows (it still needs to be removed for my wife to use the erg)
Buy a second erg for her, and better yet buy slides so you can row as a pair.
Lol....I have to drag her onto it so she's not as 'into it' as me :lol:
We have just got a Skierg though so can alternate but we rarely exercise at the same time as the puppy needs to be entertained :roll:
Alex, LWTM, 6'2" 49yo, 100m 17.3 1' 340m, 500m 1:30.0, 1km 3:14.3, 4min 1220m, 2km 6:50.2, 5km 17:59.8, 6km 21:46.7, 30' 8082m, 10km 37:31.3, 60' 15,669m, HM 1:22:14.7, FM 3:08:12.8

Skierg 1' 281m, 2km 8:15.1, 5km 21:41.6

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Re: A Comfortable Seat

Post by Blaze » April 22nd, 2021, 11:12 am

For those who use the Citius Remex ... curious if you chose Regular or High and any thoughts on that. Like a few others here, I also started on a Model B and preferred that seat to the one on the Model D. The guidance on Easy Going Rowing recommended choosing High if you're taller than 6'1" or weigh more than 185# - guilty on both counts.
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Re: A Comfortable Seat

Post by winniewinser » April 22nd, 2021, 3:49 pm

Blaze wrote:
April 22nd, 2021, 11:12 am
For those who use the Citius Remex ... curious if you chose Regular or High and any thoughts on that. Like a few others here, I also started on a Model B and preferred that seat to the one on the Model D. The guidance on Easy Going Rowing recommended choosing High if you're taller than 6'1" or weigh more than 185# - guilty on both counts.
I chose the low but I'm 75kg and 6'2".
Alex, LWTM, 6'2" 49yo, 100m 17.3 1' 340m, 500m 1:30.0, 1km 3:14.3, 4min 1220m, 2km 6:50.2, 5km 17:59.8, 6km 21:46.7, 30' 8082m, 10km 37:31.3, 60' 15,669m, HM 1:22:14.7, FM 3:08:12.8

Skierg 1' 281m, 2km 8:15.1, 5km 21:41.6

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Re: A Comfortable Seat

Post by Zuman » April 22nd, 2021, 3:57 pm

The height of the perineal ridge on the C/R makes me flinch!!
I'll admit that I was worried about that, but that didn't turn out to be a problem. You can also choose between no foam insert in the channel or your preference between inserts with three different foam densities.
I was amused by this guy's concerns and eventual acceptance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wV5w8UOMnk

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Re: A Comfortable Seat

Post by Blaze » April 22nd, 2021, 5:15 pm

Thanks, guys. I appreciate the feedback, and that link was pretty useful.
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Re: A Comfortable Seat

Post by mict450 » April 25th, 2021, 2:35 pm

Blaze wrote:
April 22nd, 2021, 5:15 pm
Thanks, guys. I appreciate the feedback, and that link was pretty useful.
Blaze, once you get your C/R or whatever option you choose, let us know how you find it.
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Re: A Comfortable Seat

Post by Blaze » April 26th, 2021, 11:52 am

mict450 wrote:
April 25th, 2021, 2:35 pm
Blaze wrote:
April 22nd, 2021, 5:15 pm
Thanks, guys. I appreciate the feedback, and that link was pretty useful.
Blaze, once you get your C/R or whatever option you choose, let us know how you find it.
Will do. I went back and forth a bit and then decided to order the Revolution Rowing seat top you linked initially. The site says it will be a three week lead time.
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Re: A Comfortable Seat

Post by Ciaran77 » May 3rd, 2021, 1:32 pm

Id be on the bigger side and was having nitemares with the seat. Got an endurerow, wasnt any good. Then invested in the ProW. Worth every penny. I did screw the C2 seat backnon to use with it. Never tried it on the endurerow, which itself i was very disappointed with. But that ProW, well thank god for it! No more nitemares when going long.
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Re: A Comfortable Seat

Post by mict450 » May 3rd, 2021, 3:25 pm

Ciaran77 wrote:
May 3rd, 2021, 1:32 pm
Id be on the bigger side and was having nitemares with the seat. Got an endurerow, wasnt any good. Then invested in the ProW. Worth every penny. I did screw the C2 seat backnon to use with it. Never tried it on the endurerow, which itself i was very disappointed with. But that ProW, well thank god for it! No more nitemares when going long.
Glad that the CR helped you.

Perhaps we'll see a future FM entry to your signature?
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