Model D dynamic indoor rower. Buying used, good price?

[Joebarbs]

Hi,
Is there a big market for the dynamic version of the model D? What's a good price for this machine pre-owned (lightly used I'm being told)? I know brand new it's $1,250.

It looks like the regular version of the model D's are going for around $700 online. But this is the first I've seen of the dynamic version that retails for $350 more.

Thanks!

[Joebarbs]

It has PM4 monitor.

[JRBJR]

The Concept2 Dynamic indoor rower is not a type of Model D. It might use the same seat and flywheel, but it's different from the Model D in every other respect.

The Concept2 website reports they started installing PM5s on new indoor rowers in October 2014, so that tells you it's at least 21 months old at the earliest.

If you can, give the Dynamic a test drive and find out how smoothly and quietly it operates. Be alert for strange noises. I'd also quickly check how well the owner has cared for, cleaned, and serviced the Dynamic. Is the Dyneema cord that connects to the handle intact or fraying? Does the chain appear clean and lubricated? Are the white rollers under the seat and footrests relatively clean or badly in need of cleaning? All of these parts easily be cleaned or, if necessary, replaced, but their condition is a good indicator of how well and/or often the Dynamic's been used. You can also obtain the serial number from the front of the Dynamic.

Finally, unless the unit has been dropped from the back of a truck, $350 is an excellent price. Go for it.

[Joebarbs]

The model D seems to be fetching $700+ online. I would thin the dynamic rower would fetch just as much if not more due to the fact it's retail is $350 more than the model D.

Is demand not that high for this specific model?

[JRBJR]

I'd recommend you get your priorities straight before you purchase a used Dynamic, whether you pay $350 or $750. First, have you had a chance to spend more than a few minutes on one? Did you enjoy the "dynamic" interplay between the seat (which should remain almost stationary on the top rail throughout the drive and recovery), the weighted (about 13 1bs) sliding footrests, and the handle? Notice how the handle has virtually no retraction pull (as opposed to the much stronger retraction on static erg chains), and thereby requires you to make more effort to move it back to the front? Those have all been designed in to mimic the handling of a racing scull. In my opinion, the action on a Dynamic is very much like using a Concept2 static erg on slides, only with a much smaller footprint.

If you have spent enough time on the Dynamic to really know how it feels and operates, do you really prefer using a Dynamic to using a Model D or other static erg? If not, don't buy a Dynamic; get a used Model D instead. I haven't checked the market for second-hand, used Dynamics, but would expect them to sell in the $600-$800 range (based on age and condition). A $350 Dynamic that operates well is a real bargain.

I know for a fact that Concept2 manufactures and sells far more Model Ds than they do Dynamics, although they won't officially advertise the actual breakdown. The Dynamic is a niche product, designed for those who prefer to practice on them when they're not using boats on the water and for home users who simply prefer the action, reputed safety, and smaller footprint of a dynamic erg.

[Carl Watts]

Stick with a Model D unless you do alot of OTW rowing.

Also most people do not understand there is a Model D1 and a Model D2 and they end up paying the same for both and there are big differences.

http://www.concept2.com.au/service/indoor-rowers

The newer model has CONCEPT 2 printed on the side of the frame, the earlier model has nothing printed on it.

The best value if you intend to keep it and use it daily for 10 years is just buy a new one.

[swingshiftworker]

I spent months trying to buy a current Concept 2 Model D w/PM5 off of Craigslist in the SF Bay Area. Missed out on 2 that were priced at $750 and snatched up right away. There are 2 newer Model Ds w/PM 5 currently for sale at $800-850 which have been sitting there for weeks. They'd probably see right away if they just priced them at $750.

The rest of the people are offering earlier model Concept rowers at ridiculous prices and are just sitting on them. People w/Model Cs and PM2/3 are routinely asking $700-800.. People w/Model B's have the nerve to ask for $500 or more. There's even a Model A for sale at $325.

Don't they know you can buy a BRAND NEW Concept 2 Model D w/PM5 for $900 plus $45 shipping in the US? The most I would save buying a newer "used" Model D was $200, so finally I just gave up and bought a new one for $945 from the factory. Sometimes, it's just a waste of time to try to save a few bucks.

[Edward4492]

The re-sale market for C2's is incredibly strong. I've been maintaining 25 Model C's in a local crossfit box for the past two years and due to several reasons the owner decided to sell them all and buy all new machines (he's opening another facility and actually purchased ten more machines). I'm not positive on the specifics, but I know the machines were all sold in about a week for around $600 each, it varied a bit depending on which monitor they had (mix of PM2's, 3's and 5's). These machines were all over 15 yrs old. They were in good shape due to maintenance and necessary repairs. I actually purchased the two best ones he had (these were "D"s with PM3's) for $700 each. I rent them out when I have a coaching client who wants to try one out(high school kid for the summer). When you buy new from the factory, the real cost is more than the $900 sale price due to tax and freight, it gets closer to $1000.

Like Carl said, just buy new and be done with it unless you fall into a bargain. There's no better built piece of equipment out there.