Concept2 Forum

I got the C-Breeze for my Model D Concept 2 indoor rower, but don't have the patience required to fiddle with getting it attached. It's more complicated than I expected. Seems like it would be a great accessory for a model C.

Anyone interested it it, either for a Model C or with some effort, another model? Mine's royal blue and pretty much brand new. I'll ship it to whoever sends me money for the mailing cost.

Here's where I got it:

http://www.ps-sport.net/nonathlon/

Uuuuuummmmmm...it's attached by stretching the two cords over the fan cage...how much easier can it possibly be?

I don't think it took me more than five minutes to install mine (model D). I think you will find it well worth your time to install it!

It's marginally more fiddly on a model D, but I get mine attached in a couple of minutes.

If you have your own rower it's a one-shot job, then leave it on until you come back to clean the fan cage.

It fits a Model C very well, I have one but they need a different version for the D or you can modify it youself.

It needs cutouts where the bridges are and the elastic can then pass under the bridges. You would pull the fan housing to get it on and then the benifit would be there is no way it can come off like it can on the C if you don't get the elastic tight enough.

Would suggest that the cutouts should be undersize so you can fold back the fabric on the inside and stitch it. probably need to make a cardboard pattern of the bridge and then transfer it to the C breeze in the right places as you will not be able to rotate the C breeze round the fan like you can on the Model C.

Way to much work ? send it back and tell them to make a model for the D that fits properly.

Carl, my thoughts exactly.

I've tried several times to get it on right, and really wanted it to work. But not enough to tape the thing down, figure out how to thread it under the bridges and cut it to fit.

Maybe you're right, I should try to return it. Thanks!

Keep trying. There is no need to use tape. I was a bit stumped by my C-Breeze on a D (talked myself into thinking it was impossible) and Paul Smith e-mailed me these pictures for dummies:

http://www.ps-sport.net/pictures/FitModDFront.jpg
http://www.ps-sport.net/pictures/FitModDSide.jpg

Didn't take me long after that.

Yes like the pictures show you it doesn't fit properly on a D.

I'm somewhat amazed that they came up with the brilliant design in the first place, then couldn't see what changes were needed for it to fit a D even better (from the point of view of it not being able to fall off) than it fits the C

I guess the main problem is they figure the average Concept 2 owner is not capable of pulling the fan cover and then getting it back on again. It would be harder with the C Breeze on as you would be trying to line things up a bit blind, even with the cover pulled right across to the chain side. It would also be a bit harder to manufacture so the cost would have to go up a few bucks, but the final product would be way better.

If the original design of a C2 erg was half decent then there would be no need to install a C-Breeze in the first place. But I guess you get what you pay for. On the other hand if you had a Rowperfect "Indoor Sculler" then there would be no need to add a C-Breeze for added cooling. That's because the fan shroud/cover has a patented design to direct the air towards the rower. And it works well thanks.

Yeah but I don't want the air directed at me in the Winter time thanks, it's to cold.

Just get the perfect set-up, two ergs like me, one for winter and one for summer !

Carl Watts wrote:Yeah but I don't want the air directed at me in the Winter time thanks, it's to cold.

Just get the perfect set-up, two ergs like me, one for winter and one for summer !

It's never too cold to erg. When I was in Boston for the Crash B's I erged outside in the snow wearing only a pair of shorts in -6 C/20F degree temperature and still raised a sweat. However Carl, you'd rarely raise a sweat because your too busy playing around with that gamer software "Rowpro" instead of concentrating on doing some real work.

By the way. You can regulate the cold air coming from the fan shroud on the Rowperfect "indoor sculler" by closing the vent. I can also subsitute the curved plastic sliding vane with another one that Rowperfect gave me for free(as part of the service to their customers) in order to provide a greater range of air circulation, resistance and noise suppresion.

Rockin Roland wrote:If the original design of a C2 erg was half decent then there would be no need to install a C-Breeze in the first place. But I guess you get what you pay for. On the other hand if you had a Rowperfect "Indoor Sculler" then there would be no need to add a C-Breeze for added cooling. That's because the fan shroud/cover has a patented design to direct the air towards the rower. And it works well thanks.

And if the price of the RowPerfect Indoor Sculler wasn't so ridiculously high ($3500 USD), perhaps more people would choose to experience its cooling breeze vent and other superior design features. In the meantime, there's always a $15 floor fan to keep you cool next to your C2.

JRBJR wrote:
And if the price of the RowPerfect Indoor Sculler wasn't so ridiculously high ($3500 USD), perhaps more people would choose to experience its cooling breeze vent and other superior design features. In the meantime, there's always a $15 floor fan to keep you cool next to your C2.

Yes I agree, $3500 USD does seem like a lot to pay for an erg. Fortunately our economy is the envy of the western world and has been almost untouched by the world economic downturn. Hence spending $3500 on an erg doesn't make one feel guilty or uncomfortable like it would in other parts of the world.

Rowperfects are expensive because they are a small operation and only consider themselves as a boutique erg manufacturer churning out small numbers as the demand requires them. At least I'm impressed by their customer service. As my erg was no 21 in the production line it missed out on 4 upgrades & features that later models on the production line received. I received a phone call from them advising me of these upgrades and the next day a service van rolled up to my place and installed them on my erg free of charge. I couldn't imagine C2 ever doing that.

Rockin Roland wrote:
Rowperfects are expensive because they are a small operation and only consider themselves as a boutique erg manufacturer churning out small numbers as the demand requires them. At least I'm impressed by their customer service. As my erg was no 21 in the production line it missed out on 4 upgrades & features that later models on the production line received. I received a phone call from them advising me of these upgrades and the next day a service van rolled up to my place and installed them on my erg free of charge. I couldn't imagine C2 ever doing that.

Sounds impressive, but that's what a really determined "boutique" manufacturer can do with a relatively small customer base in a single country, even a large continent like Australia. I've been in touch with the North American distributor in Vancouver British Columbia. I should ask him if they'll send a van to my house in the south SF bay area to install unit upgrades if I order a RowPerfect.

But I know what you're getting at; there's no way C2 can provide that extremely high level of customer service to their many thousands of erg owners scattered across the globe. Still, given the much lower price price point and profit margins of their equipment and their geographical realities, I think their customer support is still superb. They maintain parts inventories for their entire line of ergs, including the ancient Model A and B ergs (first released in 1981 and 1985). If I have a problem or a technical question, I always know I can call their toll-free customer order and support line and get immediate and full attention to my needs and prompt and reasonably priced delivery of ordered parts. Not quite up to RowPerfect Australia levels of performance, perhaps, but far better than 99% of the other consumer product firms out there.

So, I have a model D and wondering if its worth the effort to set up a c-breeze or am I better off using a fan?

Does it make the rower louder?
Does it work as well as a fan?
Is what it does to the drag / dampening factor accurate? its stated to add about half an increment. For instance, moves a 3 to a 3.5?

Thanks

Pete