lateral stability seat addon thingy

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lateral stability seat addon thingy

Post by M_Keating » January 25th, 2008, 3:30 am

I have lost the link to the after market seat adapter that gives the C2 seat lateral movement, promoting even leg push and abdominal tension.

Thanks in advance for your help, as well as any feedback relating to this product.

Mark
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Re: lateral stability seat addon thingy

Post by PaulS » January 25th, 2008, 12:25 pm

M_Keating wrote:I have lost the link to the after market seat adapter that gives the C2 seat lateral movement, promoting even leg push and abdominal tension.

Thanks in advance for your help, as well as any feedback relating to this product.

Mark
AKA the "CP1". See site below... B)
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CP1Balancing Seat Platform by Core Performance

Post by Surf Scoter » January 25th, 2008, 7:12 pm

I just saw this "thingy" on the PS Sport website. It looks very interesting! Maybe something to aim for as a 1 million meter prize to myself?? Would anyone like to comment on the product?? Is it helpful?? Can it cause problems?? Who has used it and what are your feelings?? Thanks. meanwhile I've got another 300,000 meters to go. Thanks

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Post by julieofarc » February 20th, 2008, 12:21 pm

Paul- I know this is your baby, and I was hoping you could talk me through how the CP1 is helping with balance. It seems like it would really just help more with even pressure on both legs, and not so much in translating to otw boat stability since the feet don't have the ability to 'rock' as well.

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Post by Nosmo » February 20th, 2008, 12:36 pm

It raises the seat some. It is very tippy. When it is set to "fixed" there is still a very small wobble.

You will definitely feel the work in your abdomen muscles after a long workout, and it does help with balance and driving more evenly with the legs.

I get a bit of a friction burn on my bum from the movement during rows over 25K, but it is not bad.

If you have the money it is well worth it.

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Post by PaulS » February 20th, 2008, 1:19 pm

"Rows over 25km" :!: :?: :shock:

I've never even tried it for anything over 6km, and that is rare, generally trading off 1 or 2k between "Fixed" (Fx) and "Moving" (Mv) modes.

It's really the "Baby" of the Core Perform guys, but I liked the product enough to work out a way to offer it to my customers. Just go strapless and it's a whole different experience that teaches a lot relative to being in a boat, i.e. Balance starts with your bum. :D

If I strap in, the assistance in balance is very subtle but at the time so much that you may as well be on a regular fixed seat, I tried it once and had to stop and check to make sure that I really was in Mv mode. When strapless, I mess up plenty to be reminded of the mode. :wink:
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Post by Nosmo » February 20th, 2008, 1:26 pm

PaulS wrote:"Rows over 25km" :!: :?: :shock:

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If I strap in, the assistance in balance is very subtle but at the time so much that you may as well be on a regular fixed seat, I tried it once and had to stop and check to make sure that I really was in Mv mode. When strapless, I mess up plenty to be reminded of the mode. :wink:
I was using it all the time with the straps a bit loose. With loose straps you can tell how your balance is, and not fall off when you screw up.
Even with tight straps I would think you would work the side abdominal muscles.

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Post by PaulS » February 20th, 2008, 5:09 pm

Nosmo wrote:
PaulS wrote:"Rows over 25km" :!: :?: :shock:

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If I strap in, the assistance in balance is very subtle but at the time so much that you may as well be on a regular fixed seat, I tried it once and had to stop and check to make sure that I really was in Mv mode. When strapless, I mess up plenty to be reminded of the mode. :wink:
I was using it all the time with the straps a bit loose. With loose straps you can tell how your balance is, and not fall off when you screw up.
Even with tight straps I would think you would work the side abdominal muscles.
That's true, I was exaggerating. :oops: I'd guess that, just like balancing on a Swiss Ball for and hour or more, that although there is not a lot of immediate feedback as to the work being done, when finally standing up it is very evident that there was some core work happening. Loose straps would be a good safety/security measure, and probably not too different from strapless in effect. I'm still amazed at 25k worth of continuous rowing in Mv mode though (Strapless, Loose, or tight). :D
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Post by Nosmo » February 20th, 2008, 7:00 pm

PaulS wrote:..... I'm still amazed at 25k worth of continuous rowing in Mv mode though (Strapless, Loose, or tight). :D
Did a number of HM, 25K a twice , 30K three times and 35K once, last April and May all continuous with the floppy seat while training for the marathon. Then I somehow ended up with three different double partners so I rowed exclusively on the water and never did do the marathon. If I'd known I would have just stuck it out on the 35K, I certainly had another 7k in me.

The three double partners was really stupid. They always wanted to interval work! I reduced it to one for the fall.

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Post by diannagail » March 2nd, 2008, 9:23 pm

There is a thread in the Women's forum about strapping in or going strapless. When you don't strap in, you don't have the 'cheating' motion of the straps and it works the balance and core muscles better. I really focus on the core when I don't strap in. When I'm ready to really haul erg I strap in. You might try that. I sometimes get remarks from other 'just rowing for the fun of it' people in the gym telling me ' how to use the erg' by strapping in. I explain and they are glad for the tip. :)
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