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- July 7th, 2025, 3:46 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Noob observations (C2 vs Skillrow)
- Replies: 19
- Views: 500
Re: Noob observations (C2 vs Skillrow)
Agree very treadmill/bike centric. As you say, for rowing FTMS supports: Stroke Rate ; Stroke Count ; Average Stroke Rate ; Total Distance ; Instantaneous Pace ; Average Pace ; Instantaneous Power ; Average Power ; Resistance Level ; Total Energy ; Energy per Hour ; Energy per Minute ; Heart Rate ;...
- July 7th, 2025, 11:30 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Noob observations (C2 vs Skillrow)
- Replies: 19
- Views: 500
Re: Noob observations (C2 vs Skillrow)
Focus is shifting to BLE: Garmin's increased focus will be on Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE), which is more widely adopted and better aligned with the upcoming regulations. Yeah, but do they mean Bluetooth FTMS here, or simply a new/different protocol? To clarify. Technically, the protocol Concept2 use...
- July 7th, 2025, 9:56 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Noob observations (C2 vs Skillrow)
- Replies: 19
- Views: 500
Re: Noob observations (C2 vs Skillrow)
Aside: Garmin heavily backed an ANT+ standard for fitness equipment. Concept2 also supported this. Garmin choose to have their watches not support the bluetooth equivalent called FTMS. But now ANT+ is dead, killed by encryption requirements. Well, they stopped active development, but they keep sell...
- July 3rd, 2025, 1:21 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Noob observations (C2 vs Skillrow)
- Replies: 19
- Views: 500
Re: Noob observations (C2 vs Skillrow)
Anyway, I'm here looking to confirm that I'm on the right path with a goal to enjoy rowing and become better. Let me start by saying that by far this is the most important part. From my reading it seems the SkillRow produces similar values to the C2 in the rowing mode (essentially an ergometer as w...
- July 3rd, 2025, 1:02 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Noob observations (C2 vs Skillrow)
- Replies: 19
- Views: 500
Re: Noob observations (C2 vs Skillrow)
I am a satisfied user of a Moofit HR monitor (for 26 USD on Amamzon) on a C2. Since the connection protocols are all standard I assume it will work on the SkillRow too. I wouldn't bet on it, at all. Most equipment slap on a bunch of logo's without any real support. I am also active on the EXR rowin...
- June 24th, 2025, 9:34 am
- Forum: Training
- Topic: How does Rowerg work in conjunction to ergdata, logbook and PM5
- Replies: 16
- Views: 673
Re: Newbie here - how does Rowerg work in conjunction to ergdata, logbook and PM5
2. If you are doing a "just row" or an unspecified number of intervals, you need to signal the end of the workout before it will be saved. I do this by hitting MENU on the PM5 -- then wait until the PM5 stores in memory, followed by ErgData storing it. Another way is to hit the yellow button on the...
- June 23rd, 2025, 3:41 am
- Forum: Indoor Rowers
- Topic: Help a girl out with buying a rower
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1976
Re: Help a girl out with buying a rower
I am looking at two used options: A Model C with a PM5 or a Model D with a PM3. The D is about $200 more than the C. Is the newer one worth the extra money? Both are great machines and they will outlast most of us. These machines are mechanically indestructable. Perhaps look at the state of the cha...
- June 21st, 2025, 12:41 pm
- Forum: Indoor Rowers
- Topic: Bearing drag accounted for by the Concept2 PM
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1884
Re: Bearing drag accounted for by the Concept2 PM
The PM calculates the drag factor based on the deceleration of the flywheel when the flywheel is freespinning (when you're not pulling or are pulling slower than the flywheel is spinning). In that case, the only bearing drag included in the calculation is from the clutch bearings. That is correct. ...
Re: 30R20
I am quite sure, that the PM5 rounds that way, as I failed a challenge exactly due to this problem. I managed to have the exact same data shown on the PM5 for two different intervals, but with two different rates. That means the PM5 used digits to calculate you can't even see on the PM5. And ErgDat...
- June 18th, 2025, 10:28 am
- Forum: Indoor Rowers
- Topic: Anyone have any experience with the SmartRow handle yet?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 3387
Re: Anyone have any experience with the SmartRow handle yet?
I was not aware of the validation of the 2.8 factor, but even so it will change as boats improve and most of us would have a much bigger discrepancy from stroke efficiency OTW than OTE and so introducing a further difference. That is actually a pretty interesting question. The 2.8 was set decades a...
- June 18th, 2025, 7:14 am
- Forum: Indoor Rowers
- Topic: Anyone have any experience with the SmartRow handle yet?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 3387
Re: Anyone have any experience with the SmartRow handle yet?
The Watts I think would be an issue as many serious users may be interested in comparative performance or meeting thresholds for boat selection. C2's results are the standard. As far as I understood from various YouTube video's: most national teams use time trials for crew selection, and don't look...
- June 18th, 2025, 4:08 am
- Forum: General
- Topic: DQOTH (Dumb question of the day) on the PM5
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1639
Re: DQOTH (Dumb question of the day) on the PM5
The post on the C2 blog linked below says that the X axis units are time. But it also says that the Y axis is "power application" which is clearly incorrect, since power and force are two totally different things. With OpenRowingMonitor we generate both, and they are indeed slightly different curve...
- June 17th, 2025, 2:15 pm
- Forum: General
- Topic: DQOTH (Dumb question of the day) on the PM5
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1639
Re: DQOTH (Dumb question of the day) on the PM5
As far as I know: distance, where the total length is the drive length
- June 17th, 2025, 11:30 am
- Forum: Indoor Rowers
- Topic: Anyone have any experience with the SmartRow handle yet?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 3387
Re: Anyone have any experience with the SmartRow handle yet?
Also suggest handle based HR. At a guess more people would want HR then would want competitive data that is not normalized to C2's version of watts and splits. Depends where you are coming from. On a new C2 I'd agree, for older (pre-PM5) machines it would provide connectivity to apps and games, whi...
- June 17th, 2025, 1:04 am
- Forum: Indoor Rowers
- Topic: different magnets in flywheel?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 342
Re: different magnets in flywheel?
Recently, while repairing my flywheel, the 12-pole magnet that came with the erg went missing. I have an identical 6-pole magnet; could I use that instead? What would be the result? Than your PM5 becomes useless as it expects a very specific pattern per rotation, which it isn't getting. I seriously...