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- August 10th, 2021, 2:07 pm
- Forum: General
- Topic: Minimal watts per rating
- Replies: 23
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Re: Minimal watts per rating
My model is the differential equation P = C * ω³ + ω * J * dω/dt , linearized for small time steps into ∆ω = ∆t * (P/(ω * J) - C/J * ω²). I think I've fallen prey to the classic "the perfect is the enemy of the good". The model I've been using has two major defects that yours does not: A proper for...
- August 5th, 2021, 12:12 pm
- Forum: General
- Topic: Minimal watts per rating
- Replies: 23
- Views: 27626
Re: Minimal watts per rating
https://i.imgur.com/RXjkmCM.png This result seems counter-intuitive, because stroke rates of 30 are not superhuman, but rowing at 460W for an extended time is not for ordinary athletes. May I ask what model you are using to produce these results? I've worked out my own model that shows a minimal wa...
- July 29th, 2021, 10:35 am
- Forum: Cross-Training
- Topic: Calisthenics HR vs Rowing HR
- Replies: 4
- Views: 12086
Re: Calisthenics HR vs Rowing HR
To provide a concrete example, I'm 32 and my zones are UT2=126, UT1=145, AT=158, TR=164, AN=177+. This is just based on the formula. I haven't had my max heart rate measured or anything. For my last row of 8.5k (181.2 Watts) I was 8% UT2, 51% UT1, 39% AT. Max heart rate 163 For calisthenics I was 23...
- July 29th, 2021, 10:05 am
- Forum: Cross-Training
- Topic: Calisthenics HR vs Rowing HR
- Replies: 4
- Views: 12086
Calisthenics HR vs Rowing HR
Every third day I do a pretty simple upper body calisthenics workout of chin ups, push ups, inverted rows, and dumbbell overhead press. I'll usually do four sets of each with 80 seconds of rest between, and the same rest between the different exercises, with the current goal of hypertrophy. Every se...
- July 23rd, 2021, 2:07 pm
- Forum: Competition
- Topic: Compare rankings
- Replies: 88
- Views: 124906
Re: Compare rankings
This is an excellent tool! Thank you for your time and effort! I've just been modifying the "log.concept2.com/rankings/2022/rower/" URI and changing the "?age=30-39" component to whatever age range I wanted, but I was limited on conveniently searching across seasons. I was about to code something up...
- July 17th, 2021, 12:24 pm
- Forum: General
- Topic: Minimal watts per rating
- Replies: 23
- Views: 27626
Re: Minimal watts per rating
Hence the drive time 'seen' by the flywheel/PM/ErgData is significantly shorter than the drive executed by the athlete. Also the drive length will be shorter ; the drive speed displayed by ErgData will be higher. Correspondingly the duration of the recovery is significantly overestimated by ErgData...
- July 17th, 2021, 11:36 am
- Forum: General
- Topic: Minimal watts per rating
- Replies: 23
- Views: 27626
Re: Minimal watts per rating
For low rate training at say 18, suggest you try 4:1 recovery - pull time ratio. 2:1 is for racing 2k. I got my rower last May and, after a few weeks toying around and reading these forums, decided the beginner Pete Plan was the way to go. I'm on week 6 and have a 7500 to do today. I intend to pull...
- July 16th, 2021, 8:21 pm
- Forum: General
- Topic: Minimal watts per rating
- Replies: 23
- Views: 27626
Re: Minimal watts per rating
Very interesting! And thank you for your time helping to investigate. Much appreciated. I suppose the minimal watts question occurred to me because of how I conduct my sessions. I've been rowing with a metronome which I set to three times my desired rating. If I do steady state at 24 spm, I'll set i...
- July 16th, 2021, 3:25 pm
- Forum: General
- Topic: Fan blade Physics and a Peek inside C2's Black Box
- Replies: 18
- Views: 25090
Re: Fan blade Physics and a Peek inside C2's Black Box
I was given a link to this topic from a question I asked here: https://www.c2forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=199540 This is phenomenal work Nomath! Thank you, very much. I suppose the natural extension to finish the topic would be to describe the aerodynamic properties of the flywheel housing and fan....
- July 15th, 2021, 5:51 pm
- Forum: General
- Topic: Minimal watts per rating
- Replies: 23
- Views: 27626
Re: Minimal watts per rating
Interesting question! You can find a general explanation of the physics in an internet paper The Physics of Ergometers . You can find several answers to specific issues in my topic Fan Blade Physics and a Peek inside C2's Black Box . What C2 calls the drag factor is the same variable as the drag co...
- July 15th, 2021, 3:18 pm
- Forum: General
- Topic: Minimal watts per rating
- Replies: 23
- Views: 27626
Re: Minimal watts per rating
Per the Concept2 website https://www.concept2.com/indoor-rowers/training/tips-and-general-info/damper-setting-101 : Between each stroke, the PM measures how much your flywheel is slowing down to determine how sleek or slow your “boat” is. This rate of deceleration is called the drag factor. On your ...
- July 15th, 2021, 10:11 am
- Forum: General
- Topic: Minimal watts per rating
- Replies: 23
- Views: 27626
Re: Minimal watts per rating
It depends on drag factor. At a DF of 0 you would produce 0 watts at any stroke rate (after you accelerated the flywheel), at infinite DF you would produce 0 watts at 0 stroke rate as the flywheel won't move at all. Everything inbetween this theoretical extremes should be able to calculate, but I c...
- July 14th, 2021, 9:32 pm
- Forum: General
- Topic: Minimal watts per rating
- Replies: 23
- Views: 27626
Re: Minimal watts per rating
As I understand it, the wattage that appears on the performance monitor is average watts per stroke. Wattage is work divided by time, and work is force times distance. The force you apply over the distance of your stroke length gives you joules of work done, and if you divide those joules by the tim...
- July 14th, 2021, 4:05 pm
- Forum: General
- Topic: Minimal watts per rating
- Replies: 23
- Views: 27626
- July 14th, 2021, 1:19 pm
- Forum: General
- Topic: Minimal watts per rating
- Replies: 23
- Views: 27626
Minimal watts per rating
I wasn't sure where to post this, but I have a somewhat abstract question to ask about the relationship between stroke rate and wattage on the erg. Two different stroke rates can have the same wattage if the higher rate has less force per stroke. Two different wattages can have the same stroke rate ...