"thinking" is one thing... results are the real thing, John. When are you talking about 1969? 1979? is that "used to".John Rupp wrote:I think Freed used to row similarly on the water to his erg distances and results.mikvan52 wrote:Freed ... blah blah
There was no competition for him, certainly not in Boston.
Still, many years later, no one has remotely approached his times.
My coach when I was a junior was the stroke of the USA eight that won gold in Tokyo '64... Does this make him the measure of rowing in 2010? Is it showing disrespect to him to say that he doesn't have Masters sculling times? ... NO.
Please don't mistake my respect for Freed. I respect the fact that he did not erg 2ks up to the standard of the fabulous times he reported for other distances going on ten years ago.
What anyone "thinks" can be supported with times. If Freed has OTW times from recent history (50-59 years old)... WIll someone just please post them?... If Freed has Championship 2k regatta scores on the erg as a 55+ man.. Please post them.
I am distressed by touting the results of mystery men in categories that don't apply to us... or our subject: ranger.
And shouldn't we think it odd for ranger to say: "Your times this year are all that matters" and then a couple hours later say.. "Let's focus on what Rod Freed did years ago"
Talk about being inconsistent!
Freed never competed as 55-59 year old... No 59 year old has ever beaten a 50 year olds WR.... so why suggest that anyone as unaccomplished as ranger in distance rowing as a lightweight will surpass anybody's ancient untouchable mark?
For ranger to say "I'm going after Freed's record" shows weak reasoning and is posturing.
I am not trying to diminish anything that Freed did... I am just playing with our clown in residence who will never race on the water.
I'll say it again. I love it when he comes out with these chestnuts about how he'll turn back the hands of time and become faster than people ten years his junior when he turns 60 years old. Rich has the most engaging way of jerking everybody's reality chain... This is because he's sacrificed "the real" in favor of "attention". Rich only brings up someone like Freed to deflect our attention away from his own inability to perform well as a lwt. at distance events... to deflect attention away from his inability to prepare for any racing on the water.. where he assures us "rows quite well now holding a solid 2:00 pace"
ranger is lying.. he cannot and did not and will not do well at rowing on the water an d has no intention of signing up for any races ever.
In the meantime:
Where's the 190 bpm screen shot? ......as in "I saw 190 bpm"
Where's the 500m as a lwt erg in "I think" 1:24 ?
Where's the 60 minutes erg as a lwt at a 1:49 pace (far slower than the "I think" 1:44 pace)?
None of this is real and ranger will never post it... We all know this.
We come he to quibble an have fun as old men... There are no "amazing" results consistently beating people 10 years our junior. There never will be. All of us (55+) just slow down as we get older because (dawn breaks over Marblehead) we _are_ _getting_ _ older_!
our fake optimist, ranger, says he has long term goals of WR proportions... then he deletes them w/o much comment...
If the poster boy for the fountain of youth is doing this... how are we to cope
