Sync Row Sessions to Training Peaks

[Romper]

Hello all.

How do you sync Row Sessions to Training Peaks?


Romper

[jamesg]

By following a plan like the Interactives.

[at1839]

Hello all.

How do you sync Row Sessions to Training Peaks?


Romper

How many training peaks? Most obvious answer is one but, as an example, I planned for two, because anyway I'm never home in January. So on ... just as an example of course. It works for me, your mileage may vary.

May: recover. Easy UT2, paddling around.

June to October: go for quantity, up to 6/7 session a week, up to 90/100 km a week. Polarized approach, 5x UT2 and 2x hard sessions , mostly a submaximal 30r20 and one short (mean nearly alactacid) stuff.

November, reduce quantity, add quality; 5/6 session a week, max 3x hard, Pete Plan stuff or something like, no more than 3/4 cycles.

December, taper, rank.

January, recover, paddle onboard the *alternate* rower at holiday's home.

Till end of February, go again for quantity, up to 6/7 session a week, up to 90 km a week.

March, reduce quantity, add quality; again, no more than 3 cycles.

April, taper and rank.

Repeat

Hi. Paolo

[G-dub]

I'm thinking the OP means the Training Peaks app (I think it's an app) that helps one record and manage workouts.

[at1839]

I'm thinking the OP means the Training Peaks app (I think it's an app) that helps one record and manage workouts.

Oppsss ....

P.

[Livio Livius]

Either via a Garmin watch or painsled app with .fit files. You get HR, pace, wattage, time and meters.

See workout last friday http://tpks.ws/BW0A this is done via painsled.

[Romper]

Am I able to integrate this data into an existing PMC with TSS on TP as part of my ATP with cycling being my primary sport/input?


Romper

[Old Gringo]

I use a Garmin 500 paired with a Power Tap heart rate monitor to record my workouts on C2 rower, Skierg, and Airdyne. Go to Settings, GPS, and disable the GPS function on the Garmin. Follow normal start and stop workout procedures for the Garmin during the workout, as well as the workout downloading steps to Training PeakS after the workout is completed. Workouts will post to Training Peaks, just like a cycling workout. Use the Performance Management Chart to monitor TSS, IF, ATL, and CTL. Interval data can also be recorded and displayed in Training Peaks by following normal Garmin interval procedure during workout. Works like a charm!

[Romper]

Good stuff Old Gringo.

I have the Garmin Edge 1000. Same deal?

Do you use a single PMC combining bike and rowing data?

Or do you use a separate PMC for rowing?

IS power used at all in any of the ERG data for TSS in TP?

Is the rowing selection in TP base d on water rowing or can it be base d on ERG rower?


Romper

[Old Gringo]

Glad my post raised your interest, Romper. I have been looking for someone interested in this topic. I'll try to address your questions as best I can.

First, some background. I am a 71 year old male with a road cycling history. I have used TP WKO3 to log and track my training for about 4 years. I became interested in incorporating cross-training into my training plan. My problem was how to replace a cycling workout with say a Skierg workout and maintain a consistent training load for a given training block. I found I would over train one day and/or under train another. This is not good for an old guy! Really wrecks the work/recovery cycle. Enter the use of the Garmin as I described in my original post. By watching my TSS score on TP PMC, I can control my overall work load for the week, and either increase or decrease my volume (and/or intensity) depending on what my training program calls for.

Ok, let's address your questions.

By turning off the GPS function on the Garmin, you keep the Garmin from powering down automatically when it senses you are not going anywhere on the Skierg, rower, or Airdyne. It's just that simple. Once I realized I could do that the rest was history. My guess is your 1000 has the same capability. If you need assistance, I suggest you contact Garmin tech assistance. My experiencehas been very good with them. Also, maybe we can generate some interest in them for this new way to use their products.

Do I use a single PMC? Yes. Remember, monitoring overall training workload is my objective. TSS. ATL, and ATL on a single PMC do this.

Is power used. Yes. The next question is How? To answer this question, I need to make a clarification regarding my earlier post regarding the Power Tap heart rate monitor. It is the Power Tap Power Calc. The Power Calc is a heart rate monitor that uses an algorithm to calculate a wattage number based on your heart rate. The Power Calc is the poor man's power meter. I think it is one of the best kept secrets in the area of training aids available. Unless you are a sprinter, which at 71, I definitely am not, the Power Calc serves me as well as my standard, real hub Power Tap power meter. Plus, it is extremely reliable and dirt cheap! Because it works off of heart rate, their is a lag in the reported wattage during your actual ride, but only for shorter duration intervals. For longer intervals, it smoothes out and gives a very satisfactory reading. And when downloaded, the data is used by TP to give you those all important numbers: TSS, ATL, CTL and IF for not only the overall ride effort, but for your intervals as well. And don't forget, in the case of the rower and Skierg, you have a wealth of data, realtime and post workout, available from the C2 Performance Monitor.

What are the different workout designations in TP? Good question. I thought they only served as a way to designate workout type on the Calendar screen. Beyond that, I am clueless. If there is addition function ability there let me know.

Long post. Best regards for the new year.

Old Gringo

[Romper]

Thanks Old Gringo.

Excellent!

We both have the same objectives in managing work load via TP with cycling being our primary input.

Well done on maintaining your fitness and use of TP. Remaining fit is the alexia of life!

I have been a premium TP member for around 7 months with my TACX NEO feeding in my indoor training data.

I have been a bit scared / overwhelmed by what TP can further offer in terms of TSS, PMC, CTL, WKO4 etc, but I want to start using this data to further optimise my training regime. I am just starting to learn about this stuff now.

I will ask further questions if you don't mind

Romper

[Romper]

Can you provide some tips / advice for setting up the ATP in TP?

I have read a lot about that PowerCal HR monitor before with Luke warm feedback from users. Have you compared the wattage output from this monitor to an actual power meter to note any differences?

How confident are you of using the wattage calculated from the Powercal monitor in the same PMC with wattage obtained from your power meter on your bike?

What other rowing apps/ programs do you use to record and graph specific rowing metrics (s p m, pace per 500m, etc.)?


Romper

[Old Gringo]

I cannot offer any insight regarding setting up an ATP in TP. I still use a paper calendar to do my annual plan!

[Old Gringo]

You say you have read a lot about the PowerCal, and the feedback is Luke warm. Can you refer me to these sources?

[Romper]

Hi again Gringo.

I will post those links soon.

Can you confirm if you use a dedicated bike power meter on your bike for input into TP TSS data?

Romper